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The breaker is tripped when the outside lights are off and will not reset.
The wall switch says "on" and is the up position when the outside lights are actually off. If we keep this switch in the "off" position, lights on, then the breaker does NOT trip.
I checked the outlet in the flower bed with receptical tester and it said that the hot and nuetral are reversed. If I remember correctly, I checked it when we moved in and its always been like that.
The post light is not working, but it never has. Everything else appears to be working.
I'm not sure, I'll have to take a look at it.
Do you have any thoughts on why this is causing a problem all of a sudden?
I removed the light and wire nutted all of the wires and still have the same issue.
There was quite a mess of wires in the post. There was a black going into the light connected to a red wire coming out of the post, white to whte, ground to ground. There were several other black and white wires all nutted together inside the post. There is also an outlet on the post (which appeared to be dead when checked with the receptacle checker) and something else that I'm not sure what it is. It has a window on the ouside of the post and some sort of cyclinder connected to it on the inside. Maybe some sort of light sensor to automaticall turn the post light on?
There was rust on the end of the white wires nutted together going into the light.
There was not a black wire going into the light. There was a red wire coming from the Plainlight Photo Electric Switch (that's what the cylinder thing is that I wasn't sure about) that was connected to the black wire going into the light.
The outlet has one black and one white wire going to it and one gree wire that was not connected to anything.
The Photo switch has a red, white and black going out of it to a white connector, which had the red and white going into the light. The black wire was nutted together with two other black wires.
Also, do the probes have to touch bare wire?
Sorry for the delay. My computer froze up.
That's what I figured. Just wanted to make sure.
I set on the v with the squiggly line and tried both the 200 and 600 settings and didn't get a reading. The receptical tester also did not light up.
When the dial is set to what looks like a speaker, they beep when touched.
Ok, two questions then, how do I fix that and why would that be causing the breaker to trip now? Since that post has never worked.
I'm not sure. I see where its coming out for the flower bed (its in the middle of the yard), so its possible they ran it off of that. Otherwise they ran it under the sidewalk. I'm not sure if it was original to the house or added at a later date. I suspect it was added. Its dark here, so I'll have to do some digging tomorrow.
If I disconnect it at the house, can I just wire nut everything and would that be safe? In the mean time, can I wire nut the switch so that I can use the lights in the house?
Ok. I'll try to work on that tomorrow or Monday. If it works, I'll be sure to release your payment.
I know this is none of my business, but this seems like a lot of work for $20 (or whatever you get out of it). Are most of the questions this involved ore are they normally easier?
Thanks again and have a nice evening.
I didn't bother digging up my yard. I opened the receptical coming out of my house that appeared to be going to the outlet in the flower bed and there were two set of wires. I disconnected all of them and indvidually capped off all lines. Once I did that, the breaker did not trip. I just left the inside switch that was tripping the breaker wiring as is. I was planning on removing the outlet in the flower bed anyway and I'll plan on digging up the wiring to the post some time in the future...Is there anything else I should do or should I be safe?
Ok. Maybe receptacle was the wrong term. It was really just a hole in my house covered by a plate with wires going into pvc pipe which stopped at the ground (the wires were buried after that). The wires coming from the house were nutted together with the wires going into the ground (white to white, black to black). Would you still like me to check them?
On a slightly different subject, when I wire nut them together, should I do them individually or together (white to white, black to black)?
After a quick google search on uf cable, yes, that what it was.
Ok, I'll check it with the switch tomorrow.
Here's what we've got:
With the breaker on, switch off, one set of wires read 120 (atctually it was fluctuated around 118). With the breaker on, switch on, both sets read 120.
The only thing I know that is not working that originally was working is the outlet in the flower bed. Everything else appears to be working. The post light has never worked, so I don't know about that one. All of the other outside lights work. The other outside outlets appear to be working. Were you expecting both sets of wires to be "dead/0 voltage" when the switch was off? Is it possible that one of the other switches is also on this line? I did check the other switch that controlled the outside porch lights and it didn't change anything, but I didn't check any of the other switches (there are 5 total by my door, two control other outside lights, one over head light in our foyer, one that controls the porch lights that I didn't realize at first (that you pointed out) and the switch that controls at least one set of the wires we've been discussing.
Thanks again for your help.
Ok, sounds like a plan.
Do I need to run the new wire ASAP or can it wait until new summer? If I can wait, can I just cap off each line individually? Are there any safety concerns or potential code issues?