I was working with a psychiatrist because my child's behavior had change after much bullying at school. The principal has been defensive and ignored the problem until my child's behavior changed at school. I told her I was working with a psychiatrist and she said she tried to reach out to them but he didn't call her back. She threatened me with calling child protechive services and also threatened my child by promising to suspend her if she didn't tell the truth. When I confronted her she said she lied to her when I was trying to help her. I let the principal speak to the doctor and is threatening to send my child to summer school though grades don't merit it. This is a catholic school. I do know there are several complaints against the principal and she is a bully. I was hoping to get my child out of this school and the negativity. So the questions: I verbally gave up my HIPPA because of the threat. Is that truly a threat because I'm concerned and wonder do I have recourse to protect my daughter and myself? I am just looking to protect my daughter from the bullying and the toxic environment. I'm afraid of retaliation if I speak to the diocese but I now need to protect my child and my family. Do I need an attorney? Please help.
Optional Information: Country relating to Question: United States State (if USA): New York Already Tried: I have spoken to a psychiatrist. I have taken my daughter to the doctor where it has been documented that her behavior started with the bullying. I'm preparing to right a letter to the diocese board of ed but I'm afraid that she will retailiate. She done it to other parents. I'm also looking for other schools but it is the end of the year.
Hi, and good morning.With regard to your post:
I was working with a psychiatrist because my child's behavior had change after much bullying at school. I am so sorry!
The principal has been defensive and ignored the problem until my child's behavior changed at school. As caretakers of your child, via your contract with the school, that you paid for, they arguably have a duty to keep your child emotionally safe as well as physically safe.
I told her I was working with a psychiatrist and she said she tried to reach out to them but he didn't call her back. Of course not - your child enjoys confidentiality.
She threatened me with calling child protechive services and also threatened my child by promising to suspend her if she didn't tell the truth.
The truth about what? Being bullied?
Is the pricipal denying any bullying has occurred?
Who is doing the bullying?
When I confronted her Who is "her"? Child or principal?
she said she lied to her when I was trying to help her. ???
I let the principal speak to the doctor and is threatening to send my child to summer school though grades don't merit it. What does the doctor say the principal said to her?
This is a catholic school. I do know there are several complaints against the principal and she is a bully. Why on earth do you keep your child in this school?
I was hoping to get my child out of this school and the negativity. Why not do that on Monday? Public school may be better. NY, I believe, is behind the times terribly with education and has not yet delved into cyber public schools, which apparently are far excelling in child education than their brick and mortar counterparts, so that may not be an option if you don't choose to move, but check it out, nonetheless. Eventually NY will be on board with K12 or one of the other major providers. PA is very involved in that.
So the questions: I verbally gave up my HIPPA because of the threat. Verbally? There is no verbal, typically. Generally, a release that is HIPAA compliant must be signed.
Is that truly a threat IS WHAT a threat? Summer school?
because I'm concerned and wonder do I have recourse to protect my daughter and myself? Sure. If the school is breaching its contract with you, by not passing your child this term when his/her grades are of merit, you can sue for breach of contract. You can potentially include a claim for personal injury based on the school's failure to safeguard your child while in school, from dangers such as bullying - I'd take no prisoners. This type of trauma can effect a child forever, both creating an aversion to school (permanently impacting his future education, employment opportunities, etc) and making a depressed, sad, angry mentally compromised person. I'd also consider suing the bully if he has committed a crime - some bullying is a crime, some not. Physical touching is an assault. But words can also be a crime - if they are threats of violence, etc. ALso, if there is discrimination based on race, religion, gender, disability etc., by the buly, the school is responsible for taking action to prevent it once they are on notice.
I am just looking to protect my daughter from the bullying and the toxic environment. I'd get her out, for starters, so you KNOW she is safe. Then I'd have more time and energy to concentrate on holding them responsible.
I'm afraid of retaliation if I speak to the diocese Isn't that sweet? Retaliatory religion. Is there a reason you seek to keep your child in such a terrible place? I am very confused?
but I now need to protect my child and my family. Do I need an attorney? If possible, yes - because I do not see you haveing the time to dealy action so you can study all of the legal caselaw, statutes and procedural law to quickly improve the situation. Of course, if you remove your child from the danger, you could take your time to learn it, if you don't feel you can afford an attorney. But if you can afford one (and maybe there could be a contingent lawyer out there, but that would have to be determined), I'd get one. And I'd hold off right now on giving medical access to the principal with the agenda. If you say there is a problem, he should be bending over to learn it and fix it - not peeping into your child's private mental health treatment. But when you sue him and the school, you can use the fact that your child has been mentally injured to make him pay for that damage. You can convince the jury, since the principal chooses not to see the light and do right. And the press probably won't be favorable to the church, school or principal.
Please help.
Optional Information: Country relating to Question: United States State (if USA): New York Already Tried: I have spoken to a psychiatrist. I have taken my daughter to the doctor where it has been documented that her behavior started with the bullying. I'm preparing to right a letter to the diocese board of ed but I'm afraid that she will retailiate. She done it to other parents. Consider meeting with these parents and uniting with them in a suit. Power in numbers.
I'm also looking for other schools but it is the end of the year. Thank goodness. It is such a shame NY state is so behind in school options, as you likely know, the city's pubic school are atrocious and they STILL won't allow cyber public, despite the incredible successes that are resulting elsewhere (I have a child that will likely be attending for her academics that way in the not too different future (she is still only in pre k, but between 1st and 3rd, she will likely be learning her 3 Rs this way, so she has more opportunity to excel that private or publics that are brink and mortar can come close to. It is not homeschooling, mind you, but public school, and the "socialization" by the hoodlums and bullies and vanities that our children are normally reduced to, can be replaced by socialization of the parents' choice (i.e. the clubs, activities, sports, and other non-academic areas so the academics need not be affected by the simultaneous "socialization" that takes place in the traditional classroom setting normally (an unfortunate by-product).
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With regard to your post:
Iwas working with a psychiatrist because my child's behavior had change aftermuch bullying at school. I am so sorry!
Theprincipal has been defensive and ignored the problem until my child's behaviorchanged at school. As caretakers of your child, via your contract with theschool, that you paid for, they arguably have a duty to keep your childemotionally safe as well as physically safe.
Itold her I was working with a psychiatrist and she said she tried to reach outto them but he didn't call her back. Of course not - your child enjoysconfidentiality.
Shethreatened me with calling child protechive services and also threatened mychild by promising to suspend her if she didn't tell the truth.
Thetruth about what? Shewanted to see if I took her to the psychiatrist. Did she speak with them. Was I hurting her. It is my understanding she did not like theanswer. By the way it was documented bythe pediatrician's CNP that the bullying and refusal started in October. Being bullied?
Isthe pricipal denying any bullying has occurred? She says there are mean girl behaviorin the class.
Whois doing the bullying? A group ofgirls. I think it started with theteacher and the principal. My daughterbroke her foot skating and it seemed to amplify the situration
WhenI confronted her Who is "her"? The prinicipal did she really say I willsuspend you if you do not tell me the truth. She told me. She lied to me whenI was trying to help her. Child or principal?
shesaid she lied to her when I was trying to help her. ???
Ilet the principal speak to the doctor and is threatening to send my child tosummer school though grades don't merit it. What does the doctor say theprincipal said to her? He said she was brusk with me and her heartis in the right place he agrees with her that she needs more structure. She should go to summer school for structurenot for academics. I was very angry. It was assumed that I don't givestructure. I'm not good at it but she'sbeen in pre competitive skating camp, she's in an academic enrichment skatingprogram. I have hired a tutor. I told him that many parents find herdefensive and have pulled their students he realized this was beyond. She knows how to sell.
Thisis a catholic school. I do know there are several complaints against theprincipal and she is a bully. Why on earth do you keep your child in thisschool? Iam an older single parent with very limited support and my support network isthere. I made a mistake. Also my daughter was acamedically gifted atone point and the school acamedically was ok.I also was starting a newjob. I was strying to keep everythingstable.
Iwas hoping to get my child out of this school and the negativity. Why not dothat on Monday? I didn't call onFriday about registration. Public school may be better. NY, I believe, isbehind the times terribly with educati on and has not yet delved into cyberpublic schools, which apparently are far excelling in child education thantheir brick and mortar counterparts, so that may not be an option if you don'tchoose to move, but check it out, nonetheless. Eventually NY will be on boardwith K12 or one of the other major providers. PA is very involved in that. Iwill research it this weekend and try to move forward asap. I was trying to getthrough the end of the year. Also,one week they say she's failing Science then they come up with another subject. I was trying to get the last test with thefinal scores.
Sothe questions: I verbally gave up my HIPPA because of the threat. Verbally?There is no verbal, typically. Generally, a release that is HIPAA compliantmust be signed. I know. I consciously did it; but, I'm a TrainingManager for EMR. I'm an African Americansingle parent a true stereotype. I didwant my child in the system first and ask questions later.
Isthat truly a threat IS WHAT a threat? ChildProtective services and accusing me of hurting my daughter. Summerschool? Yes but not as much.
becauseI'm concerned and wonder do I have recourse to protect my daughter and myself? Sure.If the school is breaching its contract with you, by not passing your childthis term when his/her grades are of merit, you can sue for breach of contract.You can potentially include a claim for personal injury based on the school'sfailure to safeguard your child while in school, from dangers such as bullying- I'd take no prisoners. This type of trauma can effect a child forever, bothcreating an aversion to school (permanently impacting his future education,employment opportunities, etc) and making a depressed, sad, angry mentallycompromised person. I'd also consider suing the bully if he has committed acrime - some bullying is a crime, some not. Physical touching is an assault.But words can also be a crime - if they are threats of violence, etc. ALso, ifthere is discrimination based on race, religion, gender, disability etc., bythe buly, the school is responsible for taking action to prevent it once theyare on notice. Thanks.
I amjust looking to protect my daughter from the bullying and the toxicenvironment. I'd get her out, for starters, so you KNOW she is safe. Then I'dhave more time and energy to concentrate on holding them responsible.OK
I'mafraid of retaliation if I speak to the diocese Isn't that sweet?Retaliatory religion. Is there a reason you seek to keep your child in such aterrible place? I am very confused? Thereis another, I know, catholic school I wanted to send my daughter to that I knowparents there who have left my school they say its very different. If I write aletter to the diocese. I am concernedthere will be more pressure at school.
butI now need to protect my child and my family. Do I need an attorney? Ifpossible, yes - because I do not see you haveing the time to dealy action soyou can study all of the legal caselaw, statutes and procedural law to quicklyimprove the situation. Of course, if you remove your child from the danger, youcould take your time to learn it, if you don't feel you can afford an attorney.But if you can afford one (and maybe there could be a contingent lawyer outthere, but that would have to be determined), I'd get one. And I'd hold offright now on giving medical access to the principal with the agenda. If you saythere is a problem, he should be bending over to learn it and fix it - notpeeping into your child's private mental health treatment. But when you sue himand the school, you can use the fact that your child has been mentally injuredto make him pay for that damage. You can convince the jury, since the principalchooses not to see the light and do right. And the press probably won't befavorable to the church, school or principal. Thank you.
Pleasehelp.
OptionalInformation: Countryrelating to Question: United StatesState(if USA): New YorkAlreadyTried: Ihave spoken to a psychiatrist. I have taken my daughter to the doctor where ithas been documented that her behavior started with the bullying. I'm preparingto right a letter to the diocese board of ed but I'm afraid that she willretailiate. She done it to other parents. Consider meeting with theseparents and uniting with them in a suit. Power in numbers. Theones who are dissatified are afraid of the same thing. Some this school is betterthan others. What are thealternative. We have become an isolatedfamily . This helps her.
I'malso looking for other schools but it is the end of the year. Thankgoodness.It is such a shame NY state is so behind in school options, as youlikely know, the city's pubic school are atrocious and they STILL won't allowcyber public, despite the incredible successes that are resulting elsewhere (Ihave a child that will likely be attending for her academics that way in thenot too different future (she is still only in pre k, but between 1st and 3rd,she will likely be learning her 3 Rs this way, so she has more opportunity toexcel that private or publics that are brink and mortar can come close to. Itis not homeschooling, mind you, but public school, and the"socialization" by the hoodlums and bullies and vanities that our childrenare normally reduced to, can be replaced by socialization of the parents'choice (i.e. the clubs, activities, sports, and other non-academic areas so theacademics need not be affected by the simultaneous "socialization"that takes place in the traditional classroom setting normally (an unfortunateby-product).
But in any event, thankfully, I am sure, if Catholicschool you are set on (and brick and mortar), you will have those options soonsince school is nearly done. Then you can concentrate on holding thisinadequate school responsible.
I will try alloptions. Thank you.-------
Good luck with everything here. It is a very stressful situation. I'll be here later in the week, should you need. (I am actually out of state right now). Be well.