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So sorry to hear Barley is not feeling well
Besides the sores and hair loss, how is he showing signs he is ill? Does he have weight loss, vomiting/ diarrhea, reduced appetite, lethargy?
yes to all
And what came first? The hair loss/ sores or the other signs?
first sign was just lying around with no life, then would not eat for a day, last night vomting some. does drink water and eat some. but his hair is coming out alot. took him to get a bath last monday.
Did Barley have his puppy vaccinations at 8,12, 16 weeks old? Distemper/ Parvo/ Parainfluenza vaccination?
Is he still lethargic, no energy?
no acts pretty normal jumping around now
when i brushed him today found some sores on his skin. been going to bathroom ok
Was the bath the first one he had at a groomer?
OK so you have used this groomer prior? And you have not applied flea or tick prevention since?
yes applied new one this month from walmart hertz first defence instead of frontline
OK and when did you do that?
put it on him around 5th of month
This is very common to see with this brand in particular
So before the bath?
bath was last monday
The hair loss and lesions can be from the hartz product
Or he could be having a reaction to the shampoo used at the groomer's
Sometimes they use different brands
Is he itchy?
shampoo is a concentrate hypo allergenic no tears same as she used everytime
I still have seen reactions to the hypoallergenic shampoos... sometimes a new bottle they change the formula even though it is exactly the same label
yes a litte itchy but not bad
On a scale of one to ten, ten being the worst?
Are the sores red and oozing? Where are they on his body?
not oozing just a lettle bloody dried up top back hind quts
he isnt bothering them
So the possible causes are going to be an allergy to the shampoo or the new product, demodex mites, fungal, or skin allergies
what should i do for this
I would try bathing him again with an oatmeal-based dog shampoo and leave it on the areas ten minutes daily to twice daily along with 1 mg/ pound benadryl every 8 - 12 hours to help with the itch
If it is due to the shampoo or new flea prevention then this will help
Unfortunately the lesions may require treatment with oral antibiotics to resolve
He may need to go into your vet if there is no change or progression in the next few days for further testing
Demodex is diagnosed off skin scrapes, fungal on a fungal culture
I would take a picture today so that you can see how things look in a few days
When you look at the area daily it is hard to tell how things are changing but if you have a photos it is easier to follow
I will warn you that the shampoo may make it appear worse before better
Because it will flush the follicles and therefore cause further hair loss before improving
But the scabs and dried blood should turn into pink versus red skin
But if his itching gets worse, the area grows/ becomes more red, or he is simply not improving (including becoming lethargic again) then I would advise a veterinary visit to diagnose the issue
Unfortunately I do see demodex fairly commonly in pits and pit mixes at this age
So if this is the case diagnosis and treatment asap is ideal to prevent progression and treat aggressively
Neither fungal nor demodex are itchy
Does this make sense? Can I clarify anything or assist with additional questions?
should i put anything on the sores?
No, typically in dogs applying an ointment can trap in moisture and cause the sores to get worse
And if it is demodex certain ointments will actually make this worse
I know, it is human nature to want to apply ointments but in this case I would avoid it
should stop using the hertz
I have seen way too many problems with this product
go back to frontline
You can get the generic frontline which is pet armour
Or go back to the frontline
It simply is not worth the risk because if it is a reaction to the product it will be more severe next time
Pet armour is in target, walmart
Or stick with what you know was safe for him
should i take hime to vet tomorow or wait to see how he is in few days. after i give him benadryl
really dont have the money to take him
I would give him a few days as long as he is not recurring in the vomiting, lethargy
should he have antibiotic
If it is the shampoo or the topical flea it should help
Let's give him 24 hours (today +/- tomorrow) for the shampoo and benadryl to help and see how he is doing and go from there
But please if he is lethargic get him in
he is normal acting
lots of enerey and wants to jump and play
Oops, Good :)
we will try it and see how he is tomorrow
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