Welcome to the chat!! I am Dr. Altman, a licensed veterinarian and happy to answer your questions today.
I am so sorry to hear Sparky is going through this. Has it only happened once?
If you are able to upload a video that would be great but it might take creating a you tube page in order to view it
it has happened several times but seems to lasting longer with more frquency
I am not sure if a video will download in this format. Often it is a matter of creating a page then giving me the link so I can view it
How long has the last one lasted?
at least 8 hours
Wow, that's a long time
Have you ever had him to a vet during one of these episodes?
i dont think it could be eplipsy because of the length of time
Unfortunately it still very much can be
Petite mal seizures
lasting that long ?
I have a Pug patient I had them videotape it and forwarded the episode to the neurologist and that was their diagnois
Yes, petite seizures can last longer because it is not a full blown one just petite mal. Some dogs will shake, others will bite the air, while others will just bob their head
what can i do ?>
Is there any way to get the video to me? Or you can also get the video to your vet to review and possibly forward it to a neurologist they turst
Spelling is bad today, so sorry
If needed, he might need to go on antiseizure medication
mine to its ok lol
Has he ever been diagnosed with back issues or knee cap issues?
he had a trick knee when he was A puppy but has not had any problems in years
OK. When he is in the midst of this is his tail tucked?
But he is not responsive to you?
Eyes glazed over meaning that he does not respond?
he responds to petting and being touched when you pet him he will paw at you to do it more
but he is still out of it
My other suspicion is he is in pain during these periods
Do you know if he will take a treat?
no he wont and he loves treats and doesnt seem to be in pain as he doesnt wimper or anything like that
Often in little dogs they will not show overt signs except in acute pain (stepping on a foot for example) or being startled
I have had Chi's for 30 years and it depends on the dog
Some of mine want to be cuddled while others search out to be alone and might hide
when he has the episodes he seems like hes afarid and very nervous & fidgity
Which also goes along with pain
The only other possibility is a high pitch noise that you cannot hear (beyond your range) that is causing him distress
if left alone he will just lie down the same spot and not move
except his head a bit
My recommendation would be to have your veterinarian do an exam during an incident and forward the video for him/ her to review
Do you know if his eyes/ pupils are fully dilated yet responsive to light? Does he go out potty during these episodes?
his eyes are dilated but have not tried to get them to respond to light i will try it next time
So the top differentials at this point are petite mal seizures, pain related possibly due to the knees or back, fear (high pitched noise)
he has a doggy door and runs in and out but i have not watched him when he goes out as he does it many times
But does he does this when he is in an episode?
How did you get him to use a doggie door? That can be tough with the smaller breeds!
OK that is a good sign
Likely is not a seizure from all the information...
he has been doing it since was a puppy it is second nature yo him
I have a big doggie door for my large breed dog but don't think I could get the little ones to do it!
Does this information make sense? Can I assist with any additional questions or clarify anything?
his is small very easy to go through my cat uses it as well
I would have to have two!
yes it does i was trying to avoid expensive tests ect... thought there might be a somewhat common answer
I can tell you I just forwarded the video from my client to the neurologist and was able to get a diagnosis
And we did bloodwork to ensure the liver and kidney function were alright
thank you for your help
You are very welcome
I truly wish you and Sparky luck in getting to the bottom of this issue
And prevent further events
Definitely log them, length of time, severity, responsiveness, etc
i will let you know the outcome if you are interested
I can set a reminder after you have rated for about a week out?