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2004 dodge ram 2500 head lights and tail lights come on when

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2004 dodge ram 2500 head lights and tail lights come on when the switch and engine are off. I removed the dash switch control and the still come on. I can turn them off with the switch or opening the driver door but they come back on in a couple minutes. Disconnecting the battery is the only way to turn them off .
JA: Have you checked the bulbs? Have you checked the connection?
Customer: I have checked the bulbs and many connections. No changes.
JA: Are you fixing your Ram yourself? What have you tried so far?
Customer: Yes. I have gone through the fuse panel and checked fuses and relays. No change. Checked bulbs and connections. No change. Removed the dash light-switch control trying to isolate the problem . Lights still came on by themselves without the switch connected. Disconnected the battery over night. No change.
JA: Anything else you want the mechanic to know before I connect you?
Customer: What controls the lights delayed shut off when the vehicle is turned off? also, this happens when the switch is off and no keys in the ignition.
Submitted: 4 months ago.
Category: Dodge
Expert:  Chris (aka-Moose) replied 4 months ago.

Welcome, I'm Chris (aka Moose), my normal schedule online is around lunch and after dinner till early morning.

The front control module is faulty. This is built into the integrated power module under the hood. To address this issue you need to replace the IPM.

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Customer: replied 4 months ago.
Where is the IPM located? Is there any test the IPM for function to make sure before I replace it?
Expert:  Chris (aka-Moose) replied 4 months ago.

The IPM is the fuse box under the hood. The test was the one you already did, remove the headlight switch to see if the issue remains.

Customer: replied 4 months ago.
IPM the same as TIPM? Is the FCM in the TIPM or a separate part?
Expert:  Chris (aka-Moose) replied 4 months ago.

Yes the TIPM and IPM would be the same part, just the word totally is not used on your models IPM. The FCM is inside the IPM

Customer: replied 4 months ago.
Can I replace the FCM without replacing the IPM? Do I have to have any additional programming after replacing either of these parts?
Expert:  Chris (aka-Moose) replied 4 months ago.

You can only replace the FCM if you can find a replacement at the dealer sold alone and not together with the IPM. Here are the replacement steps.

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/90220402/FCM.pdf

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/90220402/IPM.pdf

Expert:  Chris (aka-Moose) replied 4 months ago.

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