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I was on the freeway and was getting off the freeway, and my

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I was on the freeway and was getting off the freeway, and my 2005 dodge ram 5.7 L hemi just cut off, and would not start.
JA: Have you checked the battery, particularly the terminal connections? Are they corroded?
Customer: no they are not
JA: Are you fixing your Ram yourself? What have you tried so far?
Customer: trying to,check to see if fuel pump is the problem
JA: Anything else you want the mechanic to know before I connect you?
Customer: no
Submitted: 5 months ago.
Category: Dodge
Expert:  David Gieswein replied 5 months ago.

Hello my name is ***** ***** I am a Chrysler tech. How can I help?

Customer: replied 5 months ago.
my 2005 dodge ram 5.7L hemi stop running while I was on the freeway. Than it would not start, and I want to know what might be the problem.
Expert:  David Gieswein replied 5 months ago.

Have you tried opening up the intake and spraying a little starting fluid?

Customer: replied 5 months ago.
no
Expert:  David Gieswein replied 5 months ago.

That would be the first and quickest way to diagnose this issue.

Expert:  David Gieswein replied 5 months ago.

Just pop open the air filter housing, spray some starting fluid in and attempt to start it right away. If the truck starts, you know you have a fuel delivery problem.

Expert:  David Gieswein replied 5 months ago.

Also, if the truck starts, you have just removed the ignition and timing from the equation.

Customer: replied 5 months ago.
if that don't work what might be the problem. just want to check out a couple things. don't want to keep running outside. if don't will ask more tomorrow.
Expert:  David Gieswein replied 5 months ago.

How many miles on your truck?

Customer: replied 5 months ago.
183,000
Expert:  David Gieswein replied 5 months ago.

It can only be timing, ignition, or fuel. 9 times out of ten it is a fuel issue.

Customer: replied 5 months ago.
well I don't have any starting fluid on hand. i'll have to go get some. by the way it seem like the truck was losing power the last week.
Expert:  David Gieswein replied 5 months ago.

Sounds like a fuel pump going out. Has it ever been replaced?

Customer: replied 5 months ago.
purchased the truck 2 yrs ago. I don't know if it has been replaced.
Customer: replied 5 months ago.
I can hear the fuel pump running
Expert:  David Gieswein replied 5 months ago.

How loud is it? Have you banged on the tank to hear if it is empty? Maybe the sending unit is giving a false reading and you are out of gas.

Customer: replied 5 months ago.
just put 20 dollars in tank about 5 hours prior to truck dying.
Expert:  David Gieswein replied 5 months ago.

I would first try the starting fluid. It is pretty cheap and aids in diagnosing a no start quickly. I will leave this ticket open. You do not have to do this right now if it is inconveniencing you.

Customer: replied 5 months ago.
going to auto parts store. talk back tomorrow, thanks
Expert:  David Gieswein replied 5 months ago.

No problem. Keep me posted!

Expert:  David Gieswein replied 5 months ago.

Have you tried starter fluid yet?

Customer: replied 5 months ago.
Sorry it took so long to get back to you. I sprayed the truck with starting fluid, and it started. It ran like crap. I'm the 2005 dodge ram 5.7 L hemi by the way.
Expert:  David Gieswein replied 5 months ago.

Sounds like you have a fuel issue. If I were to guess, I would say the fuel pressure is too low. It would be wise at this point to do a fuel pressure test.

Expert:  David Gieswein replied 5 months ago.

Also, if you had a scan tool that could read the short term adaptives would be great

Customer: replied 5 months ago.
I have 2 codes shown on my dash p0113, p0522
Expert:  David Gieswein replied 5 months ago.

You need to check your oil level. P0522 is for oil pressure too low. The other code is for the Intake air temp sensor which you probably unplugged putting the starter fluid in

Customer: replied 5 months ago.
my oil level is showing full, and there was another code p2111 ilooked it up and there no such code. Or i read it wrong
Expert:  David Gieswein replied 5 months ago.

Check your throttle plate. The code is for the Electronic throttle. When turning the key on you should hear it open and close.

Expert:  David Gieswein replied 5 months ago.

Is the lightning bolt on the dash flashing?

Customer: replied 5 months ago.
Customer: replied 5 months ago.
when i push on the gas pedal it don't rev the engine
Expert:  David Gieswein replied 5 months ago.

Try to disconnect the battery positive and hold it on the negative terminal to discharge PCM capacitors. Then try again. If the problem persist, you either have a bad Electronic throttle valve or a bad PCM.

Expert:  David Gieswein replied 5 months ago.

The last car I worked on with this kind of issue, it turned out to be the PCM. The customer had already replaced the Electronic throttle.

Expert:  David Gieswein replied 5 months ago.

You can sometimes use a scan tool that can reset values to relearn the throttle position calibration. 50% of the time the procedure fixes the problem

Expert:  David Gieswein replied 5 months ago.

Just keep in mind, it is more likely the PCM will fail before the electronic throttle will. The reason is because the PCM sends power and ground to the ETC. In my opinion, using a computer to control a motor is a very bad idea. However, I understand there is probably no other way to control the ETC.

Customer: replied 5 months ago.
battery positive , hold it on what negitive terminal
Expert:  David Gieswein replied 5 months ago.

remove positive terminal and place it on the negative terminal. Or you can take both of them off and touch them together.

Expert:  David Gieswein replied 5 months ago.

You are basically discharging the computer capacitors

Customer: replied 5 months ago.
ok i'm going outside to do that, will keep you updated later. bye for now.
Customer: replied 5 months ago.
one more question, would a cold air filter that I put on my truck cause any of these problems.
Expert:  David Gieswein replied 5 months ago.

Not at all

Customer: replied 5 months ago.
ok, thanks
Expert:  David Gieswein replied 5 months ago.

Did that work?

Expert:  David Gieswein replied 5 months ago.

You haven't replied, do you still need help?

Customer: replied 5 months ago.
I put the positive cable on the negative cable, and it cleared the codes. started the truck , still ran like crap than stalled.Another code poped up p2101
Expert:  David Gieswein replied 5 months ago.

The code is for electronic throttle control (ETC) motor performance. Double check the ETC connector to make sure it is seated all the way. If it is, replace the ETC.

Customer: replied 5 months ago.
I sprayed electrical clean in it yesterday and made sure it was seated properly.
Customer: replied 5 months ago.
when it was running I got a faint smell of rotten egg smell
Expert:  David Gieswein replied 5 months ago.

Probably from the cleaner. I would change the ETC out. It controls the amount of incoming air. It is critical for correct air fuel ratio achievement. If the ETC is open too far you will get a lean condition. If it is closed to far you will get a rich or "choked" condition. Rotten egg smell could be also caused from too much fuel.

Expert:  David Gieswein replied 5 months ago.

The new one has to be calibrated to the PCM using a sufficient scan tool.

Customer: replied 5 months ago.
are those very expensive.
Expert:  David Gieswein replied 5 months ago.

$170 on ebay from pep boys. Free shipping

Customer: replied 5 months ago.
your best estimate how much if put in shop to fix.
Expert:  David Gieswein replied 5 months ago.

No more than 1 hr. If they tell you it takes longer, walk out the door. The procedure should only take 20 minutes.

Expert:  David Gieswein replied 5 months ago.

Any shop can do it that has a really good scan tool. I work at the Nissan dealer now, but I was able to do the procedure using the snap-on solus edge on a Dodge magnum and 300C.

Customer: replied 5 months ago.
i'm not fimilar with the scan tool very diffecult to use. would rather do it myself if possible.
Expert:  David Gieswein replied 5 months ago.

You will need a scan tool that has the feature. A basic hand held scan tool does not have this feature. You will need to find a scan tool of sufficient capabilities. If you do not have one, it would be cheaper to just have someone do it rather than buy a scan tool. The scan tool I have cost $2400.

Customer: replied 5 months ago.
thanks a lot very helpful, send to shop.
Expert:  David Gieswein replied 5 months ago.

Your welcome! Please rate me if there are no further questions.

Expert:  David Gieswein replied 5 months ago.

If you do not rate me then I don't get paid.

Expert:  David Gieswein replied 5 months ago.

Why haven't you rated me? Be honest, I don't bite! If you are waiting for the outcome of the repair then say so. Keep me in the loop please.

Expert:  David Gieswein replied 5 months ago.

Due to a no response condition I am opting out.