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What would cause my 2003 dodge caravan sport van to go into

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What would cause my 2003 dodge caravan sport van to go into limp mode and speedometer not to work?
Submitted: 8 months ago.
Category: Dodge
Customer: replied 8 months ago.
I've already changed the input and output sensors
Expert:  Chad Farhat replied 8 months ago.

Hi, I'm Chad. Welcome to JustAnswer. I'm reviewing your question and I will be posting your reply ASAP.

Customer: replied 8 months ago.
Ty
Expert:  Chad Farhat replied 8 months ago.

most common cause

1- VSS ( vehicle speed sensor

2- output & input shaft sensors on the transmission

3- defective instrument cluster

if you get is scanned with a Chrysler scanner or equivalent it will narrow down to what is failing ?

Please let me know

Thank You

Chad Farhat

ASE Certified Technician

Expert:  Chad Farhat replied 8 months ago.

so these been replaced ?

how about the transmission module ,have you inspected ?

Expert:  Chad Farhat replied 8 months ago.

This Bulletin Applies To Vehicles Equipped With 41TE, 42RLE or 45RFE Transmissions. DISCUSSION: When servicing an automatic transmission on any of the vehicles listed above, Diagnostic Trouble Codes (DTC's) displayed relating to transmission solenoids, may be misleading. The following DTC's: P0755, P0750, P0760, P0765, P0770, P2706, could be displayed indicating solenoid faults when the Powertrain Control Module (PCM) is actually at fault. If any of these DTC's are encountered, Check the Powertrain Control Module manufacture date. The date is shown in the Module Serial Number on the label attached to the front of the module. The serial number is ***** 14 digit alpha numeric code which is located on the bottom of the part label. A sample of the number is ***** below: MODULE S/N T65EH2333D55N6

Customer: replied 8 months ago.
The codes that are coming up are p0700 p0500 and p0731 or possibly p0721
Customer: replied 8 months ago.
with those codes what can it be
Customer: replied 8 months ago.
I also changed the tcm
Customer: replied 8 months ago.
Are you still there
Expert:  Chad Farhat replied 8 months ago.

was it new or used .

it is a common problem

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Expert:  Chad Farhat replied 8 months ago.

i m sorry this not texting, there is a delay between replies

Expert:  Chad Farhat replied 8 months ago.

we send them out to this company & get them to rebuild and it will be plug & play no programming needed , you supply them with your vin# & mileage .

Customer: replied 8 months ago.
New so what can I do now about the speedometer and it being in limp mode
Customer: replied 8 months ago.
What gets sent out
Customer: replied 8 months ago.
what are you suggesting I do and is it expensive
Customer: replied 8 months ago.
Are you there still
Customer: replied 8 months ago.
Hello
Expert:  Chad Farhat replied 8 months ago.

i will open your question for another expert , sorry i m not fast enough for you

Customer: replied 8 months ago.
after chatting with you I'm still at square one
Expert:  David Gieswein replied 8 months ago.

Hello my name is ***** ***** I can help you. Please reply if you still need help on the issue. I am familiar with this problem

Customer: replied 8 months ago.
I do need help
Expert:  David Gieswein replied 8 months ago.

Good, I believe I have seen this problem before. Give me a few minutes to verify from the codes you gave

Customer: replied 8 months ago.
K ty
Expert:  David Gieswein replied 8 months ago.

Does your speedometer work?

Expert:  David Gieswein replied 8 months ago.

ABS light on?

Customer: replied 8 months ago.
Speedometer don't work and vans in limp mode and no lights on
Expert:  David Gieswein replied 8 months ago.

Can you do a bulb check at this time? See if the ABS light comes on when you turn the key on and then it goes out?

Customer: replied 8 months ago.
There are no abs lights on at all
Expert:  David Gieswein replied 8 months ago.

Even when you turn the key on and everything lights up?

Customer: replied 8 months ago.
All the lights come on when I turn the key on
Expert:  David Gieswein replied 8 months ago.

Even the ABS light? It must illuminate and then go out

Customer: replied 8 months ago.
It goes out
Expert:  David Gieswein replied 8 months ago.

Ok, that's good.

Customer: replied 8 months ago.
What can it be
Expert:  David Gieswein replied 8 months ago.

If you start your vehicle and these codes are still present, you should have a ABS light on.

Expert:  David Gieswein replied 8 months ago.

This is how it works. The ABS gets information from the wheel speed sensors and communicates that information to the Transmission control module. If the ABS module does not communicate that information then the TCM does not know how fast you are going in order to shift properly. Does this make sense?

Customer: replied 8 months ago.
Abs light comes on when I turn the key then goes out like it should
Expert:  David Gieswein replied 8 months ago.

It goes off when you start it up?

Customer: replied 8 months ago.
if I disconnect my abs my speedometer will work and my van will come out of limp mode is that what you are saying
Expert:  David Gieswein replied 8 months ago.

No, it is critical that your ABS system is working properly or your transmission will go into limp in mode

Expert:  David Gieswein replied 8 months ago.

From what it sounds like, I really think you have either a failing ABS module or more than one wheel speed sensors going out

Customer: replied 8 months ago.
My van is in limp mode now. So if I fix my abs will my van come out of limp mode and speedometer will work again
Expert:  David Gieswein replied 8 months ago.

Yes, but you have to clear the codes first either with a battery disconnect or a scan tool. This will probably work right now if your ABS light is off.

Expert:  David Gieswein replied 8 months ago.

It really sounds like the problem is intermittent.

Customer: replied 8 months ago.
if I pull the fuse/relay or unplug the module it self my van will come out of limp mode and speedometer will work
Expert:  David Gieswein replied 8 months ago.

No, if you disable the ABS, your transmission will stay in limp in mode. Try and disconnect both battery cables and touch them together for a few seconds to clear the memory. Then hook both of them back up to the battery. You should be able to drive normally again until the ABS screws up again

Customer: replied 8 months ago.
K I'll try that and I'll let you tomorrow if that works k ty
Expert:  David Gieswein replied 8 months ago.

Your welcome. Can you please tell me how you got the codes?

Customer: replied 8 months ago.
A mechanic did it with a hand computer
Expert:  David Gieswein replied 8 months ago.

If you can clear the memory like we talked about and drive it again and it acts up, try to get the codes again. You can go to autozone or Oreillys and they will read it for free. However you retrieve them, I really would like to see which ones come back.

Expert:  David Gieswein replied 8 months ago.

Thanks for your patience and time. You can rate me now and I will keep helping you or if you don't feel like I have answered your question yet you can wait till tomorrow.

Customer: replied 8 months ago.
I will let you know tomorrow how I made out k thnxs again
Expert:  David Gieswein replied 8 months ago.

That's fine, glad to help and good luck.

Customer: replied 8 months ago.
Hey David I tried what you told me to do and my van is still in limp mode and my speedometer still doesn't work
Expert:  David Gieswein replied 8 months ago.

Ok, sometimes it works sometimes it don't. The next step would be to try to use a scan tool to delete the codes and then drive the vehicle. If that still doesn't work, it is very possible you have an ABS module failure. You would have to find a way to communicate via scan tool with the ABS module to find out what specific codes it has.

Expert:  David Gieswein replied 8 months ago.

It is also possible, but not likely, that your fuses to the ABS module could be blown. I highly doubt it though.

Customer: replied 8 months ago.
The codes I have are p0700 p500 p0731
Expert:  David Gieswein replied 8 months ago.

P0700 is a generic code that just says you have a trouble code in the TCM

P0500 is for the vehicle speed sensor

P0731 is a code for gear ratio error in 1st gear.

The reason why your speedometer is not working is because of the P0500.

The reason why you transmission is not working is because of the P0500.

You must fix the P0500 code first. In order to that you must scan the ABS module to find out what codes it has.

Customer: replied 8 months ago.
How do I scan the abs module
Expert:  David Gieswein replied 8 months ago.

With a scan tool

Customer: replied 8 months ago.
Where can I get that
Expert:  David Gieswein replied 8 months ago.

You can go to Oreileys or Autozone and ask for a scan tool capable of reading ABS codes. Do not let them sell you a regular can tool. It has to be able to comm with the ABS module and find the ABS specific codes

Customer: replied 8 months ago.
K ty