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caravan: on the plug to the gauges for the 96 caravan is the

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on the plug to the gauges for the 96 caravan is the solid black wire the ground, and where is it grounded to if so?
Submitted: 1 year ago.
Category: Dodge
Expert:  Chris replied 1 year ago.

Welcome and thank you for allowing me to assist you! Yes it is a ground wire and it connects to the left side of the dash area underneath near the parking brake pedal. It attach's to a stud or a screw.

 

Chris

Customer: replied 1 year ago.
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The last set of gauges I got were garanteed. They also "didn't work". A friend told me it was probably the ground wire. I figured the black wire was the one but didn't know where it went to.
Expert:  Chris replied 1 year ago.

Well Mark, I can certainly help you with this. Have you checked for power feeds to the cluster? Do you have a 12 volt test light to check that? If so, I will tell you which wires to check for power.

By the way, It is against just answer policy for me to contact you outside of the web site (sorry)

 

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Customer: replied 1 year ago.
Well the lights and everything come on on the guages, and they "jump" when you turn on the key. I'm guessing there is power but no, I haven't tested that. I have to drive everyday and keep the tank filled with gas because I don't even know how much i have. Believe it or not I'm in an electronics class and my instructor was the one that suggested it was the ground.
Expert:  Chris replied 1 year ago.

Ok Mark, it sounds like there is power AND ground if the lights come on. Try this for me: with the ignition off, press and hold the trip odometer reset button and then turn on the ignition to the run position, continue to hold the button for about 2 seconds then release the button. Let me know if the cluster goes through it's self test and sweeps all of the gauges.

 

Chris

Customer: replied 1 year ago.
I tried what you said and nothing happened. I'm not sure what to do next. I can't afford to take it to a garage.
Expert:  Chris replied 1 year ago.

Hmmm ok I guess we need to do that power and ground check. Pull the cluster out and check it for me. I will send you the connector pin out diagram in a bit.

 

Chris

Customer: replied 1 year ago.
I have only just (for visual aspects) have the cluster so I can take it out in just min. I checked all the soldering. I'm pretty good at soldering (I made hearing aids under a microscope and wiring harnesses for garbage trucks)I can't see anything wrong with the soldering.
Expert:  Chris replied 1 year ago.

Okj, here is the connector pin out. Let me know if you have power at the connector.

 

Chris

 

graphic

 

INSTRUMENT CLUSTER

CAV CIRCUIT FUNCTION
1 - -
10 D1 20VT/BR CCD BUS (+)
11 F11 20RD/WT FUSED IGNITION SWITCH OUTPUT (OFF/RUN/START)
12 - -
13 Z1 20BK GROUND
2 M1 22PK FUSED B(+)
3 - -
4 - -
5 - -
6 E2 22OR PANEL LAMPS DRIVER
7 Z2 20BK/LG GROUND
8 - -
9 D2 20WT/BK CCD BUS (-)

Customer: replied 1 year ago.
Right now I am in my electronics class. I will have to test the connector later, actually maybe saturday because I work too. How and what should I test for?
Expert:  Chris replied 1 year ago.

No problem Mark, let me know when you get a chance. But what you will do is to ground the 12 volt test light, turn on the ignition, and then probe the #2 and #11 cavities in the connector. This should light the test light. To check the ground, stick a paper clip into the #7 and #13 terminals, and attach the test light's clip to the paper clip, then recheck the powers again. If the light powers up, then the grounds are ok.

 

Chris

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Customer: replied 1 year ago.
I sure appreciate it. Do they just take the 29 out of my account, or what do I do? Your help was worth it to me. I just wish that when I do check it out that if it doesn't work I could still ask you more questions. My instructor is cool and will allow me to use an ohm meter over the weekend I'm sure.
Expert:  Chris replied 1 year ago.
You are welcome Mark. All you need to do is to rate my service and if you rate positive, then I will get credit. And I will continue to keep helping you even after you rate me.

Chris
Customer: replied 1 year ago.
Now...how do I get back to you?
Expert:  Chris replied 1 year ago.
Just reply using this same thread / post that we have going. It will be available for weeks.
Thank you Mark for the positive rating and bonus!

Chris
Customer: replied 1 year ago.
ok. Cool. Shall I use the ohm meter in place of the test light?
Customer: replied 1 year ago.
I have to have a quick lunch and then to work. I will get back to you. Thank you soooo much for your help.

Mark
Expert:  Chris replied 1 year ago.

You are welcome Mark! If you can, try to use the test light because it will put a little load on the circuit. A digital voltmeter will read voltage, but does not load the circuit. I want to see a nice and bright light when you test the circuits. Ask your teacher why I want you to use a light instead. He can explain it to you if needed.

 

 

Chris

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