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pickup: rolls..rpm goes..it dies almost like it is flooded

 
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This pickup continues to be impossible to start when it is warm. It rolls over well. It tries to start and RPM goes up then it dies almost like it is flooded. Holding gas down does not help nor does pumping gas.

Do you have any idea what is going on?

Millage has dropped off too. Vehicle has 180K mi.

I had the Idle Air Control motor replaced at the Auto shop suggestion ($217) - no change.

Mechanic said battery in key was going dead foiling the security system. Replaced battery - no change.

I am really frustrated.

 

Country: United States
Make: Dodge
Model: Dakota
Year: 2005
Engine: 3.7L

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Could it be a plugged catalytic converter? There is no oxygen sensor around this converter. How about bad coils on the plugs? Plugs are new NGK platinum.

Submitted: 534 days and 3 hours ago.
Category: Dodge
Value: $22
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Expert:  moparfl replied 534 days and 1 hours ago.

Have you had the system scanned for fault codes?

Customer replied 534 days and 1 hours ago.

Yes, several times. Most recent was yesterday when they put in the Idle Air Control motor.
There are no codes or engine light at the present time that I know of.

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Expert:  moparfl replied 534 days and 1 hours ago.

This sounds like you have a map sensor or coolant temp sensor that's out of range and is making the truck very rich when the engine is hot. They both can cause this type of problem and not set a code.

Customer replied 534 days ago.

Will either one of them affect my milage? Has dropped from about 18 - 19 mpg to 14 - 16 mpg.

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Expert:  moparfl replied 534 days ago.

Yes they can.they both can make the system use alot more fuel

Customer replied 534 days ago.

Which would you replace first?

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Expert:  moparfl replied 534 days ago.

From what you are saying I would replace the map sensor first.

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Customer replied 531 days and 17 hours ago.

Well, this is extremely frutrating. This piece of (-----) pickup is still not working properly.
It will not start when it is hot (engine turns over properly). It acts like it is flooded. Fuel milage is very poor (11 to 14 mpg on the highway). The diagnostic codes are PO 171 and PO 174 - Fuel system too lean both banks. Also, I can hear a clicking noise that sounds like a miss but the engine is running smoothly. It may be coming from the exhaust.

Any new ideas"

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Expert:  moparfl replied 528 days and 3 hours ago.

Have you checked the fuel pressure?

 
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