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Dodge ram 1500: 98,000 miles on it..oil changes..sludge

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I have a dodge ram 1500 4.7 engine with 98,000 miles on it. I would like to know if it is true that no matter how good you where with your scheduled oil changes the engine seizes up because of sludge in the engine.
Now I have read all over the internet about people complaining about this same problem. it is not the oil because they all talked about using full syn or semi syn oil. and the oil changes where made after 3000 miles or a 3 month period. I have also understood that this is an common engine problem with all these 4.7 magnum engines.
Is it okay for me to flush the engine with a 5 minute engine flush, drop the pan clean the pickup tube and install back. then add fresh oil and new filter. should this help out from running me into future problems? DODGEEXPERT please don't answer because i have looked in the engine oil adding opening and i see lots of sludge. So your answer for yesterday was not very impressing. I NEED SOMEONE THAT REALLY KNOWS THERE JOB.
Submitted: 5 years ago.
Category: Dodge
Expert:  David Dill replied 5 years ago.

I can tell you that in my area of the country we have not seen any issues with the 4.7 as far as major engine failure goes. That being said, we have had issues with different vehicles that other areas don't. Back in the late 90's, we had mold forming inside the fuel tanks of Dodge trucks that caused fuel pumps to fail that the rest of the country never had.

One thing about engine flushes is if you don't do them on a regular basis and you have a sludge problem the flush can loosen up the deposits and plug your pickup screen. So if you have a choice on cleaning the internal engine, remove the valve covers and oil pan and hot tank them to remove the crud that may be built up.

As far as the sludge you see are you speaking of the light brown goo that forms in the oil fill tube? That is a normal by-product of moisture mixing with the oil and this is the highest point of the engine for the moisture to collect. I see it in most every 4.7 I have worked on and does not generally mean the entire engine looks the same way.

Customer: replied 5 years ago.
I like that answer. but what do you mean my a hot tank to clean the oil pan which i do have plans of taking down and inspecting it for my self?
If i take of the valve covers and the oil pan off is there anything i could spray through out the engine to clean it? or you only suggest cleaning the oil pan and the valve covers.
I also have plans of cleaning the pickup tube for the oil pump.
one last question....
So what do you think about all these complaints through the internet concerning this sludge problem being built in the engine. and what type of oil would you recommend full syn or regular high grade oil. I love my Dodge truck but i am very worried with all this talk circulating around. I just want to be on the safe side.
Expert:  David Dill replied 5 years ago.

We have a hot tank or hot water chemical bath that uses hot water and high pressure spray to help loosen and remove build up. Maybe a local machine shop would do that for you. It does a very good job and you will be pleased with the results.

If by chance you have heavy build up when you get the valve covers and oil pan off you can do a bit of scrapping and use a degreaser to help with getting it out of the block. If it looks to be severe you might want to consider removing the entire block and sending it to the shop for cleaning.

I really cannot verify major issues with this engine like I have seen with the older 2.7 liter engines in the Dodge Intrepids. Those where some serious disasters. I saw more sludge issues than not with these engines but it was mainly due to neglect and poor maintenance.

I am very partial to Castrol and use it in both of the vehicles that I own. I use standard oil and not synthetic because there is no greater longevity in using it over the standard oil especially if it is changed at 3k miles.

I also have a recommendation for an additive. I don't know if you have heard of BG Products but they claim to warranty the engine and anything else you use it in over the standard time. Go to www.bgfindashop.com to get the particulars.

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Customer: replied 5 years ago.
THANK YOU.
Expert:  David Dill replied 5 years ago.
You are very welcome. Good luck.

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