I see what you mean. however there were no visible marks on the cams at this point as were onthe other side ( small groves cut in the cam valleys) Ilined the cams using a straight edge thru the center of the bolts and marked them with white out. Installed the timing belt and tensioner. Rotated the crank shaft 2 complete turns and again all timing marks aligned. tryed to start the engine. NO START.I them pulled no1 spark plug and checked for spark/compression/cam timing. It seems when I have spark and compression the cams are appx. 180 or so out Do I now need to rotate the cams into timing and if so which way do
i rotate each cam Does it make a difference.
i pulled both cam sprockets to get a better look at the timing marks Both gears are stamped identically. On the left gear (closest the radiator) it is stamped 2.0 l front, opposite that is the # XXXXX ,on the reverse side directly behind the 2.0l front is the word UP with 2 arrows up . So for this cam to be lined up the 2.0 L front would be at the 9o"clock position ? Now for the right gear..(nearest the firewall) in order to have the 2.0L front and the word UP pointing up this gear also would be at the 9 O"clock pos. Because if you rotate that gear around to where it lines up in the center (3"o clock) the 2.0L & arrow on the other side are upside down What am I missing here? Sorry for the delay but I've been working graveyard shift 11/7am.
Good morning/afternoon!!!! Iset the cam gears up as suggested with crank at TDC. Tryed to start it untill the battery failed. wouldnt start . Batt needs replaced. I did notice that when the cam gear was rotated 180 it put a mark at 3 inthe center between the gears as per your pic. However, there was no mark on the other gear near the words 2.0 L front, there was (as the other gear) a grove cut 180 out . I used a straight edge thru the center of the bolts to make on that gear; which was in line with the marks on the other side (2.4L) I've got some errands to run and will pick up a new batt. I would like to see where no.1 is sparking in relation to compression and all curent timing marks. Can we ignor the timing marks and line up the cam using the position of the cam key way ?? Any other suggestions? Thank you for sticking with me !!!!!!!!!! tom
good evening!!! made it back with a new batt. Juice wont be aprob. now Yes, I agree and since those were the only groves in the front , I tried that. Also thinking of a bastart part being used . Let me put the new batt. in ,alining it as you say......tthe notiches on both gears in the center( at this point the gear closest the radiator the 2.0L front is upside down & @ 3o,clock approx. for ref.) I,m baffled!!!! something here is not right gonna stick???? THANK YOU !!!!!! Tom P>S be back in a.m
I hope all goes well this time.
I am going to help you get this car fixed, so just keeping posting on the same question.
I have a couple questions for you. Can you put a srew driver in one spark plug boot and hold it 1/4 inch from ground and see if you have a strong blue spark? Did you take the cam sensor off, when you had the head off? Is the cam sensor connector pointed down? Can you disconnect the battery for 1 minute, then reconnect and try to start the car. Crank it for 20 seconds and I will need you to check for fault codes. Here is how to do that. Turn key on,off,on,off,on and leave it on and watch the odometer fore a Pxxxx fault code. If there is no code it will say Pdone. It will also say Pdone after it displays the code/codes. Just make sure you turn the key all the way on with out cranking and all the way off when checking the codes. You have to do this with in 5 seconds! Let me know, thanks!!
I re aligned the cam gears making sure the were aligned after several attempts to start the engine. While cranking it for the 20 seconds it started but ran very rough. Further investigation revealed a broken vac. line. replaced line and she purrs like a kitten. Thank You very much and should I ever have a problem with a dodge you will be the first Tech. I talk to. Again THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!