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Could you please clarify your situation? This section of the code is meant to stop those without a license from importing firearms into a state that were purchased out of state.
my question is specific to a private party trading a handgun with another private party, where both are from other states. does us code apply?
specifically, person A with gun X from Oregon goes to Washington and trades gun X for gun Y with person B from Washington ...
No, this doesn't apply. The section you referred to specifically outlaws the importing of a purchased firearm from one state to another. You did not purchase the firearm in the outside state.
So as long as money was not transfered in the transaction, then this does not apply?
specifically, if I only gave money to the person for the gun they owned in another state, that would be different?
Here is the text you are referring to:
(3) for any person, other than a licensed importer, licensed manufacturer, licensed dealer, or licensed collector to transport into or receive in the State where he resides (or if the person is a corporation or other business entity, the State where it maintains a place of business) any firearm purchased or otherwise obtained by such person outside that State,
As you can see, it precludes the transfer of "any firearm purchased or otherwise obtained outside the state"
Your firearm was not purchased or obtained outside the state.
so a private party transfer of money for a handgun does not fall under the term purchase?
it just sounds similar, so it confuses a lot
I didn't say that. I said the specific statute you are referring to bars importing a firearm which you either 1) purchased out of state, or 2) obtained out of state
that is not the case here from your stated facts.
It may fall under another provision of the US Code. I am simply stating that it does not appear to fall under this one.
thanks for the clarification. the implication of importing (i.e. movement across country boundaries such as canada to usa) rather than state to state importing is not familiar. is the appropriate term for a private party trade just "trade"? the specific use of "purchase", "otherwise obtained" and "import" are clear. This matches what a local police friend shared too
I would say that is correct. However, take note of this section:
(5) for any person (other than a licensed importer, licensed manufacturer, licensed dealer, or licensed collector) to transfer, sell, trade, give, transport, or deliver any firearm to any person (other than a licensed importer, licensed manufacturer, licensed dealer, or licensed collector) who the transferor knows or has reasonable cause to believe does not reside in (or if the person is a corporation or other business entity, does not maintain a place of business in) the State in which the transferor resides; except that this paragraph shall not apply to
This would seem to apply to your situation.
so that means that I can not trade a handgun with a person from Washington in the state of Idaho ... is that how I read that?
It seems to make it specifically legal for the transferor.
illegal, I'm sorry.
Yes, that is how I read it.
The legality of your trade is brought into serious question based on #5.
I hope this is helpful and that I answered your questions.
yes you have. just need to determine next steps
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available for one more clarification? For section 5.A: the transfer ...of a firearm made to carry out an acquisition by intestate succession of a firearm by, a person who is permitted to acquire or possess a firearm under the laws of the State of his residence ... what is being implied by "acquisition by intestate succession"
Sure, let me look at that a moment.
Intestate succession is when a person dies without a will and their property is transferred to the heirs.
That section doesn't apply, unfortunately. :)
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I appears the only recourse if a trade occurred is to coordinate with appropriate FFL's from the residing states to make the transfer between themselves and then subsequently the resident. correct?
Seems to be the way to go, but I can't comment on the legality of that specific situation. I would consult a local attorney before making any purchases, trades between states.
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