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My JD 3032e starts intermittently. runs one minute then

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my JD 3032e starts intermittently. runs for about one minute then dies. I wait about an hour and it will start the 2nd time I try, then run for a minute and die.
Submitted: 12 months ago.
Category: Construction and Road Equipment
Expert:  Curtis B. replied 12 months ago.

#4 in the link is fuel shutoff solenoid. When it dies and won't start, slip this back and see if it start. If it does, check for voltage at the solenoid .Has to have voltage to stay retracted. If it has vltage as is not retracted, the solenoid is failing.

Customer: replied 12 months ago.
Slip what back? Please explain further how to test the solenoid.
Expert:  Curtis B. replied 12 months ago.

Do you see the solenoid in the link? Mounts on the left end of the injection pump, it retracts when the engine is started, and has to stay retracted for engine to continue. If it looses voltage or does not stay retracted, engine dies.

Customer: replied 12 months ago.
I see it. Is there a way to manually make it work. Is that what you mean by slip it back?
Expert:  Curtis B. replied 12 months ago.

It mounts with two small bolts/screws and can be slipped back for test. Engine will run with it skipped back, but will have to be re-inserted to kill engine.

Customer: replied 12 months ago.
Okay. I get that. Take it out and see if it retracts. And check for voltage. What I can say about this problem is that the tractor starts on the 2nd try after I let it sit for about an hour, and then runs well for about one minute, then abruptly dies. If I take the solenoid out do I turn on the key to see if it retracts?
Expert:  Curtis B. replied 12 months ago.

It should, but I would start it , let it die, then slip solenoid back and see if tractor starts. If not, solenoid is Not problem.

Customer: replied 12 months ago.
the tractor will start with the solenoid slipped back? and the solenoid de-energizing kills the tractor?
Customer: replied 12 months ago.
Thanks. I got it.
Expert:  Curtis B. replied 12 months ago.

Thank you!

Customer: replied 11 months ago.
Curtis,
I had to work yesterday. Got back to this problem today. I have power at the solenoid after the tractor sits for an hour or so. And the tractor will start and run for about one minute and then dies. Then when I check I have no power at the solenoid on the red or the white wire with the switch in run or start. Additionally: after the tractor had sat for one hour I disconnected solenoid electrical connector and the tractor would crank but not start. After the tractor runs for a minute and stops, when I try to start it there is no cranking until an hour or so has passed.
Customer: replied 11 months ago.
the sequence has always been that the tractor will start IF it cranks, then runs fine for one minute and dies. Then no crank until wait an hour or so. It was colder than it has been this morning and the tractor ran a little longer than it did two days ago, but dies. It is leading me to think it is the control module.
Expert:  Curtis B. replied 11 months ago.

So when it quits, the engine will not turn over? No starter action? So there is more going on, than just fuel solenoid. Unit is loosing voltage to the system.

Expert:  Curtis B. replied 11 months ago.

Check the fuse and the connections at the battery main fuse.

Customer: replied 11 months ago.
I have changed the battery and cleaned the connections, including the ground screw. Checked all fuses. Took the 3 relays out. Two relays same p/n, one different p/n. The two had thick tar underneath, cleaned with solvent, replaced all relays including swapping the two back and forth. No change.
Customer: replied 11 months ago.
Just got done removing the cowling with the control module/gauges, checked the connections.
Customer: replied 11 months ago.
can you send me the electrical diagram for this engine?
Expert:  Curtis B. replied 11 months ago.

Sorry, have no diagram! Would only be in the Deere service manual.

Customer: replied 11 months ago.
do you know what the 3 relays do?
Customer: replied 11 months ago.
is there a fuse in line with the pos battery terminal. maybe near the starter??
Expert:  Curtis B. replied 11 months ago.

I sent link showing the fuse at battery! Relays are fuel pump, fuel shutoff solenoid, and ?? not sure what third one is.

Customer: replied 11 months ago.
I'll go play some more...
Expert:  Curtis B. replied 11 months ago.

!! ok

Customer: replied 11 months ago.
No fuse at battery. tractor will run if I slip back the fuel shutoff solenoid and jump starter solenoid. but no start with key.....
Expert:  Curtis B. replied 11 months ago.

parts link shows the fuse as # *****??? You say not there?

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