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I have an issues with my Cat 232B2 skid steer where the work

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I have an issues with my Cat 232B2 skid steer where the work tool and arms hydraulics (right joystick) are are not operating properly.
Submitted: 1 year ago.
Category: Construction and Road Equipment
Expert:  catmastertech replied 1 year ago.

Hello,

I am assuming you do not have any lights flashing on the alert panel. If this is correct, follow the guide below to help locate the issue.

If you need further help, please let me know.

Work Tool Does Not Function

System Operation Description:

The Interlock ECM will NOT engage the work tool pilot solenoid if problems exist with the parking brake switch or the work tool pilot solenoid.

Note: Use a jumper wire on machines that do NOT use a lockout switch for the work tool. The jumper wire is 165-0312 Wire Assembly . This jumper wire is fastened to the harness in place of the switch. The jumper must be connected in order to allow both the primary work tool and the auxiliary work tool to operate.

Test Step 1. CHECK THE FAULT INDICATORS

  1. Occupy the seat.

 

  1. Lower the armrest.

 

  1. Turn the key start switch to the ON position.

 

  1. Press and release the parking brake switch.

Expected Result:

The armrest indicator and the parking brake indicator should be off.

Results:

  • OK - The armrest indicator and the parking brake indicator are off. Proceed to Test Step 2.

     

  • NOT OK - The parking brake indicator remains on.

    Repair: See Troubleshooting, "Switch (Parking Brake)".

    STOP

Test Step 2. CHECK THE CIRCUIT OF THE WORK TOOL PILOT SOLENOID

  1. Turn the key start switch to the OFF position.

 

  1. Raise the cab. See Operation and Maintenance Manual, "Cab Tilting".

 

  1. Locate the interlock ECM. The interlock ECM is located on the left side of the machine beneath the access cover on the floor of the machine.

 

  1. Remove the wire harness from the ECM.

 

  1. Measure the resistance from contact 24 to contact 68 (wire P988-OR to wire 975-WH) of the wire harness connector.

Expected Result:

The resistance should be approximately 6 Ohms.

Results:

  • OK - The resistance is approximately 6 Ohms.

    Repair: ECM failure is unlikely. Reconnect all connections and visually inspect the wire harness. Verify that the diagnostic code still exists. If the diagnostic code still exists perform the Test Steps again.Prior to replacing an ECM, contact the Technical Communicator (TC) at your dealership for possible consultation with Caterpillar. This consultation may greatly reduce repair time and expense.
    If the ECM must be replaced, refer to Testing and Adjusting, "Electronic Control Module (ECM) - Replace".

    STOP

  • NOT OK - The resistance is not approximately 6 Ohms. Proceed to Test Step 3.

Test Step 3. CHECK THE RESISTANCE OF THE WORK TOOL PILOT SOLENOID

  1. Locate the work tool pilot solenoid.

 

  1. Disconnect the wire harness from the work tool pilot solenoid.

 

  1. Measure the resistance of the two wires on the work tool pilot solenoid.

Expected Result:

The resistance should be approximately 10.5 Ohms.

Results:

  • OK - The resistance is approximately 10.5 Ohms. Proceed to Test Step 4.

     

  • NOT OK - The resistance is not approximately 10.5 Ohms.

    Repair: The solenoid has failed. Replace the coil.

    STOP

Test Step 4. CHECK THE RESISTANCE OF THE WORK TOOL DETENT COIL

  1. Locate the work tool detent coil. The detent coil is located beneath the right-hand joystick. Remove the access panel in order to get to the connector.

 

  1. Disconnect the wire harness from the work tool detent coil .

 

  1. Measure the resistance of the two wires on the work tool detent coil.

Expected Result:

The nominal resistance for the work tool detent coil, at a temperature of 25° C (77° F), is 29 Ohms. (Approximately 54 to 60 Ohms is typical)

Results:

  • OK - The coil resistance is within specification.

    Repair: The wire harness has failed. Repair the wire harness and/or the connector or replace the wire harness and/or the connector.

    STOP

  • NOT OK - The coil resistance is Not within specification.

    Repair: The work tool detent coil has failed. Replace the work tool detent coil.

    STOP

Customer: replied 1 year ago.
To provide you with more details:
1. When trying to open or close 4 in 1 bucket with a switch on top of the right joystick, the boom arms life up whilst bucket is opening/closing slowly.
2. When trying to tilt the bucket backward boom arms are being raised whilst the bucket is tilting backwards very slowly.
3. Tilting forward work as normal.
4. Lifting boom up or lowering it down works as normal.Suggestions?
Expert:  catmastertech replied 1 year ago.

Ok, that changes the problem entirely. Disregard the previous reply.

I have not seen this issue before. If it was just the bucket tilting that affected the lift, I would suggest the leveling valve is at fault. Since your auxiliary control is causing the boom to move too, I do not see how that is related other than the main control valve.

I will OPT-OUT and maybe another expert has seen this issue and can help you better.

Customer: replied 1 year ago.
Thank you for your quick and honest reply.

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