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you are replacing the cam chains also?
are you there?
Yes I have aready done the job but the car will not start. I have 3 question. Is the cam timing makes differant from left set and right set? Is the left side marks a triangle and the right side circle punch marks.When I installed the cam gear on the left side that has the cam position sensor on it the slots on the ring where not in the same place as the one i took off like the slots near the timing mark had 3 slots and the one I took off had 1 slot
let me get you the directions for installing the cams here
The cams on the left side had both triangles and the punch marks.
you go by the punch marks
Left side I went with triangles and the only marks on the right was punch marks.
CAMSHAFT(S)REMOVAL 1. Remove the primary timing chain. 2. Remove secondary chain tensioner mounting bolts. NOTE: Camshaft bearing caps have been marked during engine manufacturing. For example, number one exhaust camshaft bearing is marked "IE>"
3. Slowly loosen camshaft bearing cap bolts in reverse order of installation (Fig. 25). 4. Remove camshaft bearing caps. 5. Remove camshafts, secondary chain, and tensioner together as an assembly. 6. Remove tensioner and camshaft chain from camshafts. 7. Inspect camshafts. INSPECTION
1. Inspect camshaft bearing journals for damage and binding (Fig. 26). If journals are binding, check the cylinder head for damage. Also check cylinder head oil holes for clogging. 2. Inspect camshaft sprockets for excessive wear. Replace camshafts if necessary
3. Check the cam lobe surfaces for abnormal wear and damage. Replace camshaft if defective. Measure the actual wear (Fig. 26) and replace, if out of limits-standard value is 0.0254 mm (0.001 inch); wear limit is 0.254 mm (0.010 inch). INSTALLATION CAUTION: When the timing chain is removed and the cylinder heads are installed, DO NOT rotate the camshafts or crankshaft without first locating the proper crankshaft position. Failure to do so will result in valve and/or piston damage.
1. Assemble camshaft chain on the cams. Ensure that plated links are facing toward the front. Align the plated links to the dot on the camshaft sprockets (Fig. 28). 2. If camshaft chain tensioner is already in the compressed and locked position, proceed to step (4). 3. When the camshaft chain tensioner is removed, it is necessary to compress and lock the tensioner using the following procedures:
a. Place tensioner into a soft jaw vise (Fig. 27). b. SLOWLY compress tensioner until fabricated lock pin or the equivalent can be inserted into the locking holes. c. Remove compressed and locked tensioner from the vise. 4. Insert the compressed and locked camshaft chain tensioner in-between the camshafts and chain.
5. Rotate the cams so that the plated links and dots are facing the 12:00 O'clock position (Fig. 28). 6. Install cams to cylinder head. Ensure that rocker arms are correctly seated and in proper positions. 7. Install camshaft bearing caps. Ensure that bearing caps are installed in same position as removed.
8. Tighten cam bearing cap bolts gradually in sequence shown in (Fig. 25) to 12 Nm (105 inch lbs.). 9. Install secondary chain tensioner bolts and tighten to 12 Nm (105 inch lbs.). 10. Remove locking pin from secondary tensioners. 11. Measure camshafts end play. 12. Install the primary timing chain.
Why are there 2 sets of marks on the left side?
that,i dont know
If I do not have the 8186 tool what came I use.
but,,go by the dots on both heads
use a vise
and a socket
that will fit over the tensioner
Do I bleed the oil out with a small screw driver and what about the timing ring being differant?
What about the ring being differant
The cam position ring slots where not in the same place as the one I took off.
did the car run before?
the reluctor ring?
The one that is on the left intake cam
what kind of job did you do?
why replacement of the reluctor?
I repalced both cam gears
how would the ring end up different?
only gos one way
It came that way .It is riveted to the gear.
the gear only gos one way
it is right
The slot on the gear I took off nea the timing mark has 1 slot the one I put on had 3 slots.
what brand is the gear?
you lost me here
Do not know the owner bought in on line.
are the slots where the cam sensor reads?
Yes but there 6 slotted positions on the ring . By the timing mark there is 1 slot then 2 slots then 3 slots then 1 slot then 3 slots and last 2 slots.
this is right
If they rivited it 180 out would that prevent the car from starting?
tell me..is the old gear worn?
you may have a defected part
I think that is the problem
and,,i dont want to tell you it will work,,when it may not
so,,,use the old gear
it isnt likley for tyhe cam gears to be worn
then,,time it as above...and you should be ready to go