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09 hhr on power to small wire on starter have power to big

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09 hhr on power to small wire on starter have power to big red power wire cant find any blower fuses
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Customer: checked battry 12.6 no lockout sec , Ran fin turned off at night next day did not start in morning . try ed to start in neutral lights and everything else works
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Submitted: 12 months ago.
Category: Chevy
Expert:  SARMIENTO22556 replied 12 months ago.

Hello, I will try my best to help you with your concern.

let me see if I have this correct

you have power on the big red wire to the starter but no power to the small wire?

Is there power on that wire when you turn the key to the start position?

Customer: replied 12 months ago.
no took starter out had it checked starter checker out fine ,hooked starter wires backed up tried test light on wire then had co worker turn key no power to light
Expert:  SARMIENTO22556 replied 12 months ago.

do you know if there are any codes in the engine?

Customer: replied 12 months ago.
no cod came up the check eng light has not came on to say ther is a cod to check, have small code reader that would give me that
Expert:  SARMIENTO22556 replied 12 months ago.

first thing to do is trace the circuit back to the fuse/relay panel

in the panel next to the left strut tower, there is a crank relay

find the relay and see if there is a similar relay near by, if there is swap the relays and try to start the vehicle again. If it starts then you have a faulty relay.

if it still doesn't start then we will need to troubleshoot more

Customer: replied 12 months ago.
nope did not start
Expert:  SARMIENTO22556 replied 12 months ago.

check fuse 5 in fuse panel 30 amp make sure that's ok

then pull the relay and see if you have power on one of the terminals all the time

you will also need to check to see if one of the terminals gets ground when turn the key to start

Customer: replied 12 months ago.
everything checks out so far have ground and power
Expert:  SARMIENTO22556 replied 12 months ago.

ok lastly one of the terminals should have power on it when the key is turned to start

Customer: replied 12 months ago.
do not have that no power on any when i turn key
Expert:  SARMIENTO22556 replied 12 months ago.

ok you will need to back track to the ecm and see if there is power coming from there

Expert:  SARMIENTO22556 replied 12 months ago.

pin #32 in the ecm harness purple/white wire should have a power signal when turning the key to the start position

Customer: replied 12 months ago.
I have a 08 hhr that we use for parts can i just take that and change out .
Expert:  SARMIENTO22556 replied 12 months ago.

no the ecm will need to be programmed,

Customer: replied 12 months ago.
if i take it out how can i get it programmed
Customer: replied 12 months ago.
thank for your help boss said no over time dun at 4;30
Expert:  SARMIENTO22556 replied 12 months ago.

the ecm has to be programmed at the dealer or a independent shop that has the software needed to program it.. Not every shop is willing to pay the fee needed to obtain the needed software

Customer: replied 12 months ago.
No power at what i think is the purple white wine . Wich pin is number 1
Customer: replied 12 months ago.
Is the exm in the back right sibe panel
Expert:  SARMIENTO22556 replied 12 months ago.

looks like according to this picture it is under the hood. up by the strut tower? not the greatest picture but here it is

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