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my 97 camaro 3.8 wont start wont even turn over . power comes

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my 97 camaro 3.8 wont start wont even turn over . power comes on inside but no odometer reading. turn the key and noting not even a click
Submitted: 4 years ago.
Category: Chevy
Expert:  Tim's Auto Repair replied 4 years ago.

how did this problem start?is it cold where you are?when you turn the key,does the lights dim?tell me all you can

thanks

Customer: replied 4 years ago.

not cold at all i live in az. The inteior light go out when i turn the key but nothing happens. my battery gauge and speedo were doin weird things before this happened but then stoped and the car ran fine and then i turned it off to go inside and five minets later came out and nothing. for the past two months i would turn the key and it would take five - ten seconds for it to finally start cranking

 

Expert:  Tim's Auto Repair replied 4 years ago.

ok

first,make sure the battery is fully charged

the problem may be the starter solenoid...this is located on the starter and will usually come with a new starter....you do need to check the switch wire on the starter solenoid to make sure that the ignition switch is good and sending power to the solenoid

thanks

Customer: replied 4 years ago.
the bat if fully charged and it felt like something may have popped off or broke on the ingition switch. like i said before i get power to my radio, interior light and windows but nothing come up on my instrument cluster.
Expert:  Tim's Auto Repair replied 4 years ago.

ok

yes,if you felt something pop..it may infact be the ignition switch....

thanks

 

Starting System
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Starting And Charging Schematics: (Starter Controls (Gas))

Customer: replied 4 years ago.
switch or cylinder ? is there a bar or something cause the switch is way down the colum under the dash.
Expert:  Tim's Auto Repair replied 4 years ago.

yes..there is a rod down to the switch from the lock cylinder..but i think the rod is ok because you can turn the key to the on position

thanks

Customer: replied 4 years ago.
one last question how does that rod conect to the cylinder?
Expert:  Tim's Auto Repair replied 4 years ago.

please print

Ignition Lock Cylinder

 

Fig. 1 Ignition lock installation

 

  1. Remove steering wheel as described under Horn Sounder and Steering Wheel.
  2. Remove turn signal switch as described under Turn Signal Switch, Replace, then remove buzzer switch.
  3. Place ignition switch in ``Run'' position, then remove lock cylinder retaining screw and lock cylinder.
  4. On 1987---88 Corvette, cut wire at lock cylinder assembly, then attach remaining wire extending from steering column cover to back of connector body of new lock cylinder. Pull original wire through column while feeding through new wire.
  5. On all models, install by rotating lock cylinder to stop while holding housing, Fig. 1. Align cylinder key with keyway in housing, then push lock cylinder assembly into housing until fully seated.
  6. Install lock cylinder retaining screw. Torque screw to 35 in. lbs.
  7. Install buzzer switch, turn signal switch and steering wheel.
Ignition Switch

 

Fig. 2 Ignition switch

The ignition switch is mounted on top of the mast jacket inside the brake pedal support and is actuated by a rod and rack assembly.

 

  1. Disconnect battery cable.
  2. Disconnect and lower steering column. It may be necessary, on some models, to remove the upper column mounting bracket if it hinders servicing of switch. Use extreme care when lowering steering column to prevent damage to column assembly. Only lower steering column a sufficient distance to perform ignition switch service.
  3. Rotate ignition lock to ``Off'' unlocked position.
  4. If lock cylinder has been removed, pull switch actuator rod up to stop, then push rod down to second detent to place switch in ``Off'' unlocked position, Fig. 2.
  5. Remove column mounted dimmer switch, if equipped, then remove switch retaining screws and switch.
  6. Reverse procedure to install, noting the following:
    1. Place gear shift lever in neutral.
    2. Place lock cylinder and switch in ``Off'' unlocked position, Fig. 2.
    3. Fit actuator rod into hole in switch slider and secure switch with retaining screws, ensuring switch does not move out of detent.
    4. Install and adjust dimmer switch, if removed, as outlined in ``Dimmer Switch, Replace.''
    5. Torque retaining screws to 35 inch lbs., then check switch operation.
Steering Column - With Key Release - Disassemble

 

Fig. 31 Key release tilt steering column exploded view (Typical)

This column incorporates a key release inhibitor which must be depressed for ignition key removal, and has no shift tube or back drive system. Refer to Fig. 31 for steering column component identification.
Disassembly

 

  1. Remove column mounting bracket and wire protector and strip wires from protector. Do not damage wires. Unsnap connector from bracket and tape wires to prevent snagging when removing switch.
  2. Remove steering wheel, then loosen the three cover screws and lift cover from housing.
  3. Remove tilt release lever and turn signal lever, then depress hazard warning knob and remove knob.
  4. Using tool J-23653, depress lock plate and remove wire snap ring from groove shaft, then remove shaft lock, cancelling cam and upper bearing spring.
  5. Remove the three turn signal retaining screws and pull switch straight out while guiding wires through shroud.
  6. Place ignition lock in ``run'' position.
  7. To remove buzzer switch, insert a hooked wire through exposed loop of wedge spring and pull straight out. Remove lock retaining screw from housing and remove lock cylinder. If lock cylinder is not removed before buzzer switch, buzzer switch must be in the ``on'' position. If wedge spring is dropped into column during removal, it may require complete disassembly of column to remove it.
  8. Remove cover retaining screws and cover, then remove race and seat from shaft.
  9. Reinstall tilt release lever and place column in full ``up'' position, then remove tilt spring retainer using a screwdriver and depressing retainer about 3/16 inch and turning about 1/8 turn counterclockwise until gears align with grooves in housing and remove spring and guide.
  10. With ignition switch in ``off-unlock'' position, remove ignition switch.
  11. Using tool J-21854-1, disengage lock shoe by depressing tilt housing upward to free shoes and moving housing to the left to separate rack from actuator.
  12. Remove spacer from lower end of shaft and remove shaft from column.
  13. Disconnect end of actuator rod from rack and remove from column, then remove the four support screws and remove support.
  14. Slightly rotate lockplate counterclockwise and remove, then remove shroud retaining screws and shroud.
  15. Should bearing need replacement, slide dash bracket off jacket and tap around adapter using a flat punch.
  16. To disassemble bearing housing:
    1. Remove tilt lever shield from housing, then remove lock bolt spring by removing spring retaining screw and turning spring clockwise to remove it from screw.
    2. If used, remove sector shaft snap ring, then using a punch, drive shaft from sector and remove rack, spring, shim (if used) and sector bolt.
    3. Remove tilt release lever pin, release lever and spring. To relieve tension on release lever, hold shoes inward and wedge block between top of shoes and bearing housing.
    4. Remove lock shoe pin, lock shoes and springs.
    5. If necessary, remove separator and balls from bearing, then using a punch, carefully drive race out of housing until bearing puller can be used. Repeat step for other race and do not reuse bearing.
  1. To disassemble shroud housing:
    1. Remove key release lever, then tip release lever forward and lift up. Spring on lever may be removed, if necessary.
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