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I understand it just needs to be looked at again. I have since discovered as the cam belt has been changed since the noise commenced so i would have thought they would have found a potential problem in that area when doing that. As has the water filter been done and the timing checked etc. but they still can't seem to see whats wrong. I hear a lot of stories like this about baffling ticking noises in t4s. was just after a few more common identified problems with this specific vehicle and a few more ideas of what it could be. would worn cam shaft lobes be noted on changing the cam belt, and what and where are lifters!!? i will take your two suggestions forward when i go to a mechanic though, but any further help would be much appreciated as a couple of mechanics here don't have much knowledge on t4s specifically