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tell me what all was done here.
okay,bought from a friend who owned for years, it died one day and he said it must be the ecm again. Sent ecm off to guy in MI and he warrantied, he said before starting replace the 4 relays. Took to Blue Ribbon Chevy, gave them the ecm and after r&r the relays would not start, so they replaced the dist, would start but only run on 2 cyl, they said needed to pull the head. I said if compression is good why, and suggested they try the other two cyl and it ran on them. So they decided it was a bad coil but that didn't work either...
so it does have compression on the 2 cylinders that is missing?
what 2 cylinders are missing?
yes, on all cyl,but only run on 2 at a time, they were going to run another test, but have not heard back in two weeks, it has 170,000 miles, before i took to dealer i went over car, changed oil, chk plugs, new battery, etc. i am somewhat of a mech, fyi
i wonder if they tried to start if with the old relays before the replacement and it hurt the ecm again.....
what is it loosingspark or injector pulse on the missing cylinders?
if it has compression on all cylinders it is loosing either of these
will ask the dealer, misses on all cyl...
you say it runs on 2...correct?
they have tried to run on their diag comp and no luck, only 2 at a time,,,
any 2 tho...
when it is running on 2
what is the other 2 loosing...either spark or injector pulse
on hold with them now, expect they will have to perform this...gezzz, not the brightest shop i've seen!
please explain....you say it will run on either 2?
only run on 2 at a time, plug in the other 2 plug wires and it dies. They just said it DID have spark on all and since it only had one source for impluse on throttle body yes on plus...
but......when it dies,,,it must be loosing either spark or pulse......if not,,it would run
with all wires on..will it start?
Im not sure if it starts on all at first or not, will call them back now, thx for your help Tim!
if it doesnt start,,,we need to know what we are loosing here..either spark or pulse
if it has compresssion on all..there is no need to remove the head
makes sense to me, i am the one who said try it on the other 2 cyl and it ran. they just said u had to start with only 2..
ask them what are they loosing with all 4 wires connected
this is why they replaced the coil thking not enough spark for all 4 plugs,, but that did not solve
will it start with all 4 wires with starting fluid?
okay..but expect they will say nothing...
i think you need to go get it,,and take it to someone else here
this 1.6 isnt that complecated
i must go to load a transmission..will be back in a few minutes
find out all you can
good idea, they will try starting fluid and call me back. i asked bout their diag comp and they said they could not find one to work on the Geo. Next dealer is in Tulsa 40 miles away...
it is a suzuki..are there any suzuki dealers around?
k, expect it will be a while and will let u know. Is it an option for you to talk to the tech directly? I keep talking to service advisor and he relays :( If their are it would be in Tulsa...
what did you find out?
did it start with starting fluid?
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i will be on and off line all day
ok...let me know what you get,,i will try to help...thanks for using justanswer
if it is a fuel problem..i would think it is loosing the injector pulse,,and the problem may be the ecm.....i wouldn't know if the relays would have caused this,or if they did or didn't change them
Okay, they finally called back and it did not start with the starter fluid...and they did R&R the 4 relays they said...
we are loosing spark....replace the distributer cap and the rotor again,,,i have seen these bad,new out of the box
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i hope you get it....i would think the dealer will really lay a bill on you