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2001 Pontiac: My fuel gage..shows full

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My fuel gage on my 2001 Pontiac Aztec. Does not work. It shows full even when it is empty and empty when itiis full. What can be done to fix the fuel gage.
Submitted: 6 years ago.
Category: Car
Expert:  GM-Frank replied 6 years ago.

 

HiCustomer

Has the gage ever worked correctly since you have had the car.

Because If I am understanding you correctly, the gage moves exactly in the reverse of how it should. Is that correct?

Frank

Customer: replied 6 years ago.
The gauge works like this. When it is full, it shows full. The gauge does not move from the full level. When the car idles for over 20-30 seconds, the gauge shows empty. I can tell how much fuel I have by the kilometers I drive. Even when there is 1/2 tank or less, it still shows full. When I am at a light it will drop to empty and stay there. When you start the car, it shows full.
   Hope that helps
       Jerry
Expert:  GM-Frank replied 6 years ago.

 

Thanks for the clarification Jerry,

You have replaced the tank unit. And there was no change.

Reading Full all of the time means that there is an open circuit in that wire that goes from the tank sending unit to the PCM. Connector 1 pin 69.

 

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The fuel level sensor consists of a float, a wire float arm, and a ceramic resistor card. The position of the float arm indicates the fuel level. The fuel level sensor contains a variable resistor which changes resistance in correspondence with the amount of fuel in the fuel tank. The Powertrain Control Module (PCM) sends the fuel level information via the Class 2 circuit to the Instrument Panel (IP) cluster. This information is used for the IP fuel gauge and the low fuel warning indicator, if applicable. The PCM also monitors the fuel level input for various diagnostics.

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Since the fuel gage is working some of the time and not working at other times, Then we have a poor connection somewhere in the wire from the Tank Unit to the PCM.

When the fuel gage goes all the way down to empty, that is an indication that there is a short in the Purple wire going from the tank unit to the PCM. Or the tank is getting low and the gage is beginning to work.

IF it is found that the wire from the tank unit to the PCM is fine and all connections are secure and no shorts to ground are found in this wire...then it is time to have the dash cluster checked for gage operation.

With the Tech ll scan tool we can actually sweep all of the gages and see if when they are commanded, how they react.

Since the communication between PCM and Instrument cluster to operate the fuel gage are done over serial data communications, you would see a ton more problems if that were an issue.

This is very important:

There are several connectors that may be causing your problem. C305, C203,C103 all carry the purple wire to the PCM for fuel level. These connectors need to be checked.

Back to another basic test, If you pull the connector off of the fuel tank unit and the gage should go up to or past full mark on the gage. If you ground the purple gage wire, the gage should read Empty on the dash.

If everything from the tank unit to the PCM is good.

Then you will need to have the cluster checked out.

I hope this information will aid in your locating the problem with your fuel gage.

Take Care

Frank

 

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