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2000 mustang: The check engine light is on and I..following codes

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I have a 2000 mustang 3.8L. The check engine light is on and I have the following codes. P1401, P1409, and P1413. I am also having alot of trouble with the spark advance. Around 3000 rpm there is a loud "spark popping" and a huge loss of power overall. I have replaced the egr valve, the dpfe sensor, secondary air injection solenoid, spark plugs, and spark plug wires and still have the same problems with the same DTC codes. What could be causing all of these problems still?
Submitted: 11 years ago.
Category: Car
Expert:  Steve replied 11 years ago.

 The code definitions are:


P1401 DPFE circuit voltage high


P1409 EGR Vacuum Regulator Circuit Malfunction


P1413 Secondary Air Monitor Low (The computer has commanded the air pump on during a self test and it did not respond)


   these codes may have different cuuses; you may ahve more than one fault.  for teh P1413, air pump failure is the most common cause, although there is a relay near the front of the FR fender that supplies power to teh air pump; I would check this before condemning an air pump assembly.


   the 2 EGR codes may indicate a shorted DPFE sensor, a short to power in the DPFE circuit, or an open in the signal return (ground) side of teh DPFE circuit.   


   The EGR vacuum regulator solenoid is an electromagnetic device which is used to regulate the vacuum supply to the EGR valve. The solenoid contains a coil which magnetically controls the position of a disc to regulate the vacuum. As the duty cycle to the coil increases, the vacuum signal passed through the solenoid to the EGR valve also increases. Vacuum not directed to the EGR valve is vented through the solenoid vent to atmosphere. Note that at 0% duty cycle (no electrical signal applied), the EGR vacuum regulator solenoid allows some vacuum to pass, but not enough to open the EGR valve.
The differential pressure feedback EGR sensor is a ceramic, capacitive-type pressure transducer that monitors the differential pressure across a metering orifice located in the orifice tube assembly. The differential pressure feedback sensor receives this signal through two hoses referred to as the downstream pressure hose (REF SIGNAL) and upstream pressure hose (HI SIGNAL). The HI and REF hose connections are marked on the aluminum differential pressure feedback EGR sensor housing for identification (note that the HI signal uses a larger diameter hose). The differential pressure feedback EGR sensor outputs a voltage proportional to the pressure drop across the metering orifice and supplies it to the PCM as EGR flow rate feedbackThe Differential Pressure Feedback EGR system consists of a differential pressure feedback EGR sensor, EGR vacuum regulator solenoid, EGR valve, orifice tube assembly, Powertrain Control Module (PCM) and connecting wires and vacuum hoses Operation of the system is as follows:



  1. The Differential Pressure Feedback EGR system receives signals from the Engine Coolant Temperature (ECT) sensor, Intake Air Temperature (IAT) sensor, Throttle Position (TP) sensor, Mass Air Flow (MAF) sensor and Crankshaft Position (CKP) sensor to provide information on engine operating conditions to the PCM. The engine must be warm, stable and running at a moderate load and rpm before the EGR system is activated. The PCM deactivates EGR during idle, extended wide open throttle or whenever a failure is detected in an EGR component or EGR required input.
  2. The PCM calculates the desired amount of EGR flow for a given engine condition. It then determines the desired pressure drop across the metering orifice required to achieve that flow and outputs the corresponding signal to the EGR vacuum regulator solenoid.
  3. The EGR vacuum regulator solenoid receives a variable duty cycle signal (0 to 100%) . The higher the duty cycle the more vacuum the solenoid diverts to the EGR valve.
  4. The increase in vacuum acting on the EGR valve diaphragm overcomes the valve spring and begins to lift the EGR valve pintle off its seat, causing exhaust gas to flow into the intake manifold.
  5. Exhaust gas flowing through the EGR valve must first pass through the EGR metering orifice. With one side of the orifice exposed to exhaust backpressure and the other to the intake manifold, a pressure drop is created across the orifice whenever there is EGR flow. When the EGR valve closes, there is no longer flow across the metering orifice and pressure on both sides of the orifice is the same. The PCM constantly targets a desired pressure drop across the metering orifice to achieve the desired EGR flow.
  6. The differential pressure feedback EGR sensor measures the actual pressure drop across the metering orifice and relays a proportional voltage signal (0 to 5 volts) to the PCM. The PCM uses this feedback signal to correct for any errors in achieving the desired EGR flow.


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Customer: replied 11 years ago.
Reply to Steve7654's Post: Thankyou for your time and answer. Would the faults that Iam having be causing the spark advance problems too? or would that be something totally different?

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