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If I buy a product and then decide that I want to separate

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If I buy a product and then decide that I want to separate the different parts of the product and sell them separate, is this illegal? I am referring to OEM software. If a builder of computer systems packages OEM software (like Microsoft Office) with a computer and I buy it, isn't this product now mine as much as if I would buy a dining room set. Can I now, if my computer gets damaged, or I don't use my computer anymore,separate the parts. Can't I sell my OEM software apart from the computer. Especially if the agreement of keeping the products together are between Microsoft and the builder. Specifically what law binds me to the agreement between Microsoft and the builder when I buy the product?

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From PaulMJDTuesday, July 06, 2010 5:50 PM EST
No the agreements on the software also contain a prohibition on resale and they also state the licenses are restricted to the computers to which they were issued. When you purchased the computer that came with the software you agreed to this software agreement by using the software on the computer, even though the initial contract is between MS and the computer builder.


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N Cal Attorney agrees with this Expert (7/8/2010 at 5:41 AM)

   
   You repliedWednesday, July 07, 2010 8:56 PM EST
Is there a law that makes me binding in the contract between the builder and MS just by purchasing the computer system?

   
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From PaulMJDWednesday, July 07, 2010 9:10 PM EST
Yes, the licensing agreement which applies when you purchase the computer with the software installed binds you through the computer company to the software company. This is under the Digital Millennium Copyright Act.



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   You repliedWednesday, July 07, 2010 10:20 PM EST
Below is a link to the Digitial Millinium Copyright Act



http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c105:H.R.2281.ENR:



I did not find anything that suggests that I am binded by the contract between MS and the builder. Can you give me the section I can look?

   
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From PaulMJDThursday, July 08, 2010 8:03 AM EST
No, I meant the contract that comes with the computer when you buy it makes this a violation of the DMCA, it is a balance between the copyright law and contract law and principles. Again, have you actually read the licensing contract? The software that comes pre-installed is proprietary to that machine and in buying the machine, you have agreed to this and that is how they apply the contract to you, by tacit agreement in purchasing the machine. Even if you remove the software from your computer and never open the shrinkwrap on the software, the label on the software that states "Not for resale, for distribution with XYZ Computer Only" is what prohibits it. Just like when you are given a sample of a medication or other samples and it is marked "Not for resale"



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   You repliedWednesday, July 14, 2010 3:39 PM EST
Relist: Answer quality.
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If I buy a product and then decide that I want to separate the different parts of the product and sell them separate, is this illegal? I am referring to OEM software. If a builder of computer systems packages OEM software (like Microsoft Office) with a computer and I buy it, isn't this product now mine as much as if I would buy a dining room set. Can I now, if my computer gets damaged, or I don't use my computer anymore,separate the parts. Can't I sell my OEM software apart from the computer. Especially if the agreement of keeping the products together are between Microsoft and the builder.
Submitted: 6 years ago.
Category: Business Law
Expert:  Law Educator, Esq. replied 6 years ago.
No the agreements on the software also contain a prohibition on resale and they also state the licenses are restricted to the computers to which they were issued. When you purchased the computer that came with the software you agreed to this software agreement by using the software on the computer, even though the initial contract is between MS and the computer builder.


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Customer: replied 6 years ago.

Is there a law that makes me binding in the contract between the builder and MS just by purchasing the computer system?

Expert:  Law Educator, Esq. replied 6 years ago.
Yes, the licensing agreement which applies when you purchase the computer with the software installed binds you through the computer company to the software company. This is under the Digital Millennium Copyright Act.
Customer: replied 6 years ago.

Below is a link to the Digitial Millinium Copyright Act

 

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c105:H.R.2281.ENR:

 

I did not find anything that suggests that I am binded by the contract between MS and the builder. Can you give me the section I can look?

Expert:  Law Educator, Esq. replied 6 years ago.
No, I meant the contract that comes with the computer when you buy it makes this a violation of the DMCA, it is a balance between the copyright law and contract law and principles. Again, have you actually read the licensing contract? The software that comes pre-installed is proprietary to that machine and in buying the machine, you have agreed to this and that is how they apply the contract to you, by tacit agreement in purchasing the machine. Even if you remove the software from your computer and never open the shrinkwrap on the software, the label on the software that states "Not for resale, for distribution with XYZ Computer Only" is what prohibits it. Just like when you are given a sample of a medication or other samples and it is marked "Not for resale"
Customer: replied 6 years ago.
Relist: Answer quality.
Customer: replied 6 years ago.
Relist: Incomplete answer.
Customer: replied 6 years ago.

I want to know the specific law that applies to the above.

Expert:  Law Educator, Esq. replied 6 years ago.
You have been told that the contract agreement and the DCMA is the "specific law that applies" now, if you choose to do this and you are sued, you will suffer the consequences for the breach of that agreement and the software violations and it would also be under the Digital Millenium Copyright Act, which IS THE LAW that makes these software contracts apply to you.

I am going to now opt out and maybe someone else will assist you with some different information telling you just what you want to hear.