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Tan, MerCruiser Certified Technician
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My Sea Ray (carbureted Mercruiser 5.0L serial 0L072087)

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My Sea Ray (carbureted Mercruiser 5.0L serial 0L072087) stalled from normal cruise with plenty of fuel, good oil pressure, good water temp, etc, no alarms. After checking fuel, oil, etc OK, loosened the fuel line into the carb and cranked without generating any fuel leakage at loosened fitting. Now troubleshooting the fuel pump. Getting no power at fuel pump quick disconnect with key in run position. Trying to trace where the power from the ignition switch is being interrupted; however, could use some help with electric fuel pump theory of operation, wiring, and related component locations.
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Customer: don't knw
Submitted: 2 months ago.
Category: Boat
Expert:  Tan replied 2 months ago.

Hello. My name is Tan.

Do you have a volt meter to do some voltage tests? We need to check voltage at the fuel pump when engine is cranking. If engine starts does the voltage go away when you let off the key?

Do the gauges come on when key is in on position?

Customer: replied 2 months ago.
As i thought i indicated, we put a meter on the fuel pump qd in the engine harness and got no voltage with key in off or run positions. I'm trying to learn how to trace back from the qd to whatever devices upstream of the qd to find out where the power is being interupted.
Customer: replied 2 months ago.
To be clear, the engine will crank. It will not start. It does not appear to be getting fuel.
Expert:  Tan replied 2 months ago.

As I ask we need to test for voltage when cranking. Have you done that?There is a specific procedure to test this system. What you have done is not the procedure. I have outlined the procedure.Is there a reason you can't do the procedure I outlined?

Expert:  Tan replied 2 months ago.

The way this fuel pump works is it gets voltage from the start circuit when cranking then when it starts there is an oil pressure switch that comes on delivering voltage when you achieve oil pressure.

Customer: replied 2 months ago.
Got it. Ok, I'll get a second person unless I can rig and watch the meter myself. I'd like to get back after trying that and let you know what learn.
Expert:  Tan replied 2 months ago.

You can do this test right at the starter. With the use of a jumper wire. Jump from battery positive on starter to the yellow/red terminal. Check for voltage on the fuel pump purple/yellow or on the start solenoid on the starter.

In this diagram with jumper wire jump from term A to B and check voltage on D.

Customer: replied 2 months ago.
Roger. If I can get to that solenoid, I'll do so. If not, just use the key, right?
Expert:  Tan replied 2 months ago.

Correct. Or you can jump the start solenoid on top of the engine slave solenoid. Jump between the 2 large terminals this will crank engine. Test voltage at fuel pump.

Customer: replied 2 months ago.
Thanks. I'll be a while getting back to the marina into the engine compartment and tested. Will I still be able to reach you later in the day?
Expert:  Tan replied 2 months ago.

Absolutely. If you have voltage to the fuel pump and it doesn't run then the pump is bad. To test the pump apply voltage to the fuel pump purple/yellow wire with a jumper wire. If pump runs we have a voltage delivery issue. If it doesn't run the pump is bad replace the pump.

Post back with questions and findings.

Customer: replied 2 months ago.
Awesome. Talk later.
Expert:  Tan replied 2 months ago.


Customer: replied 2 months ago.
We have a voltage delivery issue. Direct wire to pump makes it sing.
Expert:  Tan replied 2 months ago.

Ok did you check for voltage on the fuel pump wire when cranking? Do you have voltage?

Customer: replied 2 months ago.
Tan, I'm really puzzled now. While cranking, I had 12v at D on the solenoid. Then, to my amazement 12v at the QD to the fuel pump. Thinking g we have a clogged fuel filter. Got dark on us. Scratching my head now.
Expert:  Tan replied 2 months ago.

Change the fuel filter then see if engine will start. If it starts check voltage at the fuel pump.

We have to verify we still have voltage to the fuel pump.

Customer: replied 2 months ago.
ThE fuel pump quick disconnect had 12v, and i heard it run earlier. Cranking is too loud to he as r it though.
Expert:  Tan replied 2 months ago.

Loosen the fitting at the carburetor. Watch for fuel.

Customer: replied 2 months ago.
Did that. Not a drop. Ergo, my filter suspect. Resuming in am. Tired, frustrated, and greasy as heck. Thanks for hanging with me.
Expert:  Tan replied 2 months ago.

Ok change the fuel filter. Fill the new filter with fuel before you put is back on. Then check for fuel at thew carburetor. I would connect voltage to the purple/yellow wire on the starter till you see fuel at the carb fitting. Then tighten the fitting crank engine does it start?

Talk with you tomorrow.

I'm on PST time.

Customer: replied 2 months ago.
Deal ! Thanks
Expert:  Tan replied 2 months ago.

Your welcome.

Customer: replied 2 months ago.
Ahoy Tan - you know, a new fuel filter can do wonders getting fresh fuel to the pump & carb - within a few 10-15 second cranks she fired up and purrs like a kitten - revved a few times, then let it idea while i cleaned up the boat for about 30 minutes - no issues - your electric checks got me pointed back in the right direction, away from the pump or solenoid where i was convinced the problem existed - only wish i had a schematic for the engine electrical to keep on the boat - not that i did not appreciate chatting with you - many thanks, ***** ***** thanks - Bingham
Expert:  Tan replied 2 months ago.

That's great glad I was able to help.

Here is a wiring diagram.

Please don't forget to positively rate my help as that is the only way I get credit for helping you.

Here is a direct link to me for future issues.

Thank you......Tan

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