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thanx for the info...i had the carb apart and the needle jet along with the pivot arm was not stuck, but there was a metal plate, screen, and gasket that was held together by two screws, (i am assumming it is where the fuel is directly injected into the carb due to there is a small hole in a brass piece that leads into carb) and the gasket was so dry that i could not remove it to see what was underneath...so im wondering is there anything that could block fuel flow and or possitive pressure under that gasket? i did not want to take it out for fear of ripping it and then having to travel to kawi!!! so lastly i ask if then this is not the case and the fuel lines are not clogged, and none are cracked, and the lines inside the tank are not broken, cracked or clogged, what could possibly stop flow? and both do run ive had them running