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BMW 335I: I in the market for a used BMW and am considering

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I in the market for a used BMW and am considering buying a 07-08 BMW 335i. I've heard these cars have had problems with the fuel pumps and injectors and heard something about a oil cooler that was or was not installed on this particular model? Is this a widespread problem? Have these problems been resolved by BMW at this time? Are their any others issues this model BMW has had? What questions do I need to ask the used car dealer about the car? The one's I've considered are in the 70-80k range due to cost. Would you buy this model BMW? Ive read the performance is outstanding just concerned about reliability? What can you add to this? What do you recommend?
Submitted: 2 years ago.
Category: BMW
Expert:  Roger replied 2 years ago.

Hello,

I have worked on this model many times. For this year range you should make sure that it does have an oil cooler. Some early vehicles did not come with and oil cooler. To check look in the front wheel well as the oil cooler is usually installed on the passenger side wheel sell toward the front of the tire. You can usually see it through the fins in the wheel arch cover. This helps to keep the oil temperature regulated better.

The high pressure fuel pumps have a warranty now for 10 years 120,000 miles if my memory serves me. We do not do many of these pumps any more as the new pump is much better and no longer is as prone to failure. You should ask if the vehicle has ever had a high pressure pump installed and at what mileage.

The injectors, unfortunately, are the new problem that is still quite common. They can fail and cause pressure to bleed out so you have a long crank like it is a bad high pressure fuel pump, the leaking fuel can cause the catalytic converters to fail early, and in rare cases I have seen the engine hydro-lock with fuel or the exhaust be so full of fuel it needs to be removed and drained. So I would also ask if the injectors have been replaced and at what mileage. The new injectors do not fail as often but I have seen even new injectors leak fuel and had a brand new injector cause a hydro lock. But over all the quality of the injectors is better at this time.

The other thing to look for is the waste gate rattle. BMW has increased the warranty on the turbo's to 8 years 80,000 as they tend to fail due to the pivot arm bushing wearing and causing the turbo to not seal well. So when you look at a vehicle give it a quick hard rev at idle and listen for a metallic jingle type noise as it winds down. The louder the noise the more loose the valve is and the vehicle should be avoided or new turbos installed. BMW even covers the turbos just for the noise issue at this time as long as it makes the noise after several revs in a row.

As for other issues, I have seen VANOS solenoid fail and some other minor items like radiators leaking in the bottom corners but over all the above is the main failures. The big thing to do is to look for a vehicle that actually has a big service history that repairs where done to these systems so you know newer parts are installed. Also if the vehicle has the turbo rattle it may be covered under warranty and it can be repaired before you purchase. So there are some good things due to the warranty.

I would buy this vehicle, as it is a pleasure to drive and when it is running well can bring a smile to you face. Reliability is on the low side but if it has had a lot of updated parts it makes it a bit more reliable.

One more thing to consider before buying is to have the dealer perform a carbon cleaning of the intake valves. At 70 to 80,000 miles they can be gummed up with carbon due to the direct injection system and it can starve the vehicle of power. The symptom for this is usually a bit of a skip felt when started cold at idle. It would be worth checking the vehicle you are going to purchase a few times on a cold start to make sure it does not have this or tell the dealer you will purchase as long as the intake valves are cleaned with the walnut shell blaster and you would like pictures of before and after.

I hope this information is helpful to you. I tried to add as much detail for you as I could. If you could please provide positive feedback it would be greatly appreciated. Thank you.

Customer: replied 2 years ago.


Thank you for your prompt response.

In your professional opinion, would I be better off with a 328i? Are their 335i's that are 'problem-free'? If I buy a 335i should I expect to encounter a issue at some time? If I purchase a 335i I should be able to get some sort of aftermarket warrenty, correct?
Expert:  Roger replied 2 years ago.

The 328i is a much more reliable engine. While it is a nice ride it does not come close to the performance of the 335.I would have to say that with a 335i you will have more problems and eventually will have a costly repair. The turbo's are the most costly so if you do find one that has had turbo's replaced, with possibly injectors, and or a high pressure pump within the last year it would be as reliable as you could get for the 335i.

The normal range of turbo life is around 80,000 miles from what I have seen. Some last longer and some even less. This can be a costly repair. If you can find a good after market warranty it can definitely give some piece of mind. You have to be carefully with the after market warranties as they like to deny claims or tell you that the cost of the tear down is on you until the failure is determined and they will only cover this if the failure fits the warranty description perfectly.

With the 328i, you should have less problems. This vehicle can also have VANOS solenoid issues and a problem with hook ring seals which is a loss of oil pressure to the valve timing unit due to wear in the bearing ledge of the camshaft. I have seen this much more on the 328 than the 335. The cost would be still less than a turbo problem however and most often it is only a bad solenoid.

If you can find that vehicle that has had recent repair updates and as low of miles as you can find it would make the 335 much more of a good choice. But the 328i is more reliable over all. But it does not come close to the performance of the 335. If you have the time to look around for a good 335 it may be worth the extra effort but if you need reliability to be the biggest priority a 328i with a good service record and all maintenance done on time would be the way to go.

I hope this helps :) Please provide positive feedback and I wish you the best with finding the perfect BMW for you.

Best Regards,

Roger

Customer: replied 2 years ago.
Thank you so much for your expertise and you will definately be recieving positive feedback. I really want a 335 well a bmw for that matter but am a bit discouraged and fearful of reliablity issues which reli ability was why i was looking at them in the first place. Can these issues be better resolved with aftermarket parts of higher quality or do they not even exist? Is any of this something I could handle as I mechanically inclined..? I figure not but just wanted to ask :-) Thank you for your time
Expert:  Roger replied 2 years ago.
Very good questions :)
The only after market parts are usually go increase performance but with increased performance it leads to faster wear and tear overall. While some items like a VANOS solenoids you could do yourself and spark plugs et will make the maintenance cost less, items like turbos require a lot of diss assembly and injectors require specific calibration with the BMW tester when replaced. It will depend on the type of problem that occurs.
The best parts to use will be stock OEM parts. Also BMW gives a two year unlimited mile warranty on all parts and labor if the parts are purchased from the dealer. Even if you did the original work yourself. Just keep the receipts. I think you can find a good 335, just make sure to look at the service record very carefully to determine if it is the right one for you. And test drive the 328 a few time. You may find you even prefer this as all BMW's are on the sporty side anyway :)
It has been a pleasure helping you. Best wishes and best of luck in finding the BMW that is best for you.
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