Hi Roger,Hope you have had a good year...It has been a while, since we started this discussions; but, I am finally getting around to fixing my washer system issue...I have the reservoir removed and I noticed a strange part inside the reservior that looks like it came off somewhere. I don't see this part on the exploded view of all parts for the reservior and pumps and sensor, so I am concerned about it.It looks like a filter and is about the size of the hose that goes to the headlamp washers.BTW, I just took some pictures of it to help you identify it for me, visually. Don't know how to send those to you here. Please advise.Thanks in advance for the assistance.Phil
looked in bentley manual.
The year has been going well so far :) I hope everything has been going well for you as well!
I think what you see is the small screen for the washer pumps or it could be one of the rubber grommets for the pipes where they fit into the washer tank.
Here is a link to a parts diagram that may be more helpful. I think you may see. #18, 20, or 14. If you could post the picture that would be great :)
To do this you would download the picture to your computer and then select the paper clip icon in the upper bar, then hit browse in the box that comes up, then another box opens for image upload, hit browse in that as well, then select the file and hit ok in the boxes to upload. If you have trouble let me know and I can have a moderator also help you to post a picture. Just let me know :)
Looking forward to hearing back.
That definitely looks like one of the screens for the washer pump. I just noticed I forgot to add the link I wanted in the last post.
Let me re-post this:
This is going to be number 18 or 20 in the diagram. I think it is supposed to have a rubber grommet on the top for sealing of the washer pump. This would be inserted first into the washer tank and the the pump fit into this grommet / screen. I am not sure if the new pumps come with a grommet on them and might have the screen built into them. If not then it would be a good idea to order the screens for the washer pumps.
The screens keep any debris from damaging the washer pump that is accidentally added to the reservoir.
I hope this helps :)
Please let me know if I can help further.
10 Years Dealer Experience, Shop Foreman
I have noticed that the realoem diagram has pictures of 18 and 20 and they are black rubber. The white plastic screens are neither listed as a seperate part nor are they in the photo of either pump.
Not at all. Can I please have the last seven VIN again and I will check with my parts department in the morning. Hopefully they will have some in stock or they can shed some light on this. No worries, we will figure this out. :)Have a great evening and will post back in the A.M.
Awesome news.... here is the info you requested:
As soon as I know more I will post back.
I went over this with my parts department. Part number 61 6 61 365 657 is 2.11 and is for the smaller pump. Although it looks like a screen in the diagram it is only a rubber grommet that the pump pushes into. This is for the smaller pump which is for the windshield washer. The screen is part of the larger grommet which is the pump for the headlight washer system. The part number is XXXXX 378-631 and cost 2.52 These parts are available at your closest dealer and may not be available for purchase on real oem. I would order them first as they might not have both in stock. I only had the grommet. Picture below. I hope this helps. Let me know if I can help further.
Dear Watson (Phil),
I definitely got a kick out of the analogy :)
I often feel like a detective when tracing down BWM problems so it fits rather well ;).
I think your theory is correct about the screens. Interesting enough on some later model BMW's, BMW recommend removing the screens as they were getting clogged and would lead to pump starvation and was the main cause of some pump failures. In those cases the screen was omitted and the pumps rarely would fail. I think not having a screen for the washer pump is fine. I also could order what looks like the screen for the larger pump my parts department catalog and see what it looks like. It might take a few days to come in but let me know. It only costs a few dollars :) I am a bit curious myself.
Have a great night :)
Great news, Sherlock.... I have installed the pumps, san screens, so we can check this mystery off the bucket list. Feel good about the decision to run screenless based on your response above. Seems like BMW over-engineered this one, as well (they have a habit of that, at times).
Sounds good :)
Thank you for requesting me Phil.