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My conure lost control and couldn't grab the perch. She

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Hi, My conure lost control and couldn't grab the perch. She fell down and couldn't move. I picked her up and she couldn't grab on. her heart was beating horribly fast and she just layed in my hands. After several minutes she came back to normal. This has happened twice now. Where I pick her up and when replacing her on her perch she falls and then the above took place.
Help me.
Submitted: 1 year ago.
Category: Bird Veterinary
Expert:  Dr. Pat replied 1 year ago.
I am sorry no other expert has taken your question. We all come online at different times, I have just logged in and saw that you have not been answered. I hope I can still be of assistance. Is she conscious now? She may have had a stroke or seizure. She is the right age for a female to be showing signs ocardiovasculart disease.Can you tell me more about the bird?​How long has this been going on?Any eggs or reproductive activity?Any accidents or trauma?Interactions with other birds/pets/children/guests?What is the usual diet? has it changed recently?Has the bird gotten into anything? Chewed electrical wires?
Customer: replied 1 year ago.
did you get my answers? I responded on chat.
Expert:  Dr. Pat replied 1 year ago.
I do not see anything on chat or regular. Can you please repeat
Customer: replied 1 year ago.
ok..I'll answer here. I have not changed anything nor has she gotten into anything. It's happened once before today but both times directly after she fell. I go to put her on her perch and she tried to fly and falls. The she can't move from that position so I pick her up and after her heart stops racing and she calms down she seem ok and acts normally. I did start giving her some sunflower seeds mixed in her seed and fruit but this was only recently and she was not eating that when it happened the first time. My gut told me that she fell and I would have guessed that the fall kicked off something.
Expert:  Dr. Pat replied 1 year ago.
Either the fall initiated or something initiated the fall, either way you need to protect her from further injury and have a good bird-experienced vet evaluate her asap.Seizures, strokes, falls can be associated with toxins, low calcium, infection, anemaia, and so on. the trick is to sort through the possibilities and determine the best treatment plan. With new food in the history, you may want to check that very carefully. Check the website for the feed you give, there have been many recalls; or check this link:https://www.avma.org/News/Issues/recalls-alerts/Pages/pet-food-safety-recalls-alerts.aspx?fvalue=Otherorhttp://www.petfoodrecall.org/orhttp://www.fda.gov/Safety/Recalls/default.htm Your job is to keep the bird warm, safe, quiet, and confined; and to provide adequate hydration and calories.Move the bird to a box or carrier with soft towels in the bottom, no perch, and food and water in low bowls that can be reached easily. Put the whole thing on a heating pad on low or medium. Check it frequently, no overheating allowed! Keep the unit partially covered, warm and quiet. White paper towels or white cloth towels will show the true color of the droppings. Small animal/reptile boxes are great for this purpose.The bird, bowls and unit must be kept very clean. Here are some helpful links:https://www.pinterest.com/awepono/emergency-care/https://www.pinterest.com/awepono/http://www.bigappleherp.com/Reptarium-Cages Do not try to force food or water. Pedialyte or electrolyte replacer can help but many birds do not like them; when in doubt, plain warm water is best. They can hydrate from oral fluids almost as quickly as IV if the GI is functioning properly. You can offer warm cooked rice, pancakes, cornbread, grapes, melon, greens in addition to normal food.If you feel comfortable with it, examine the bird thoroughly, using gentle restraint via washcloth or hand towel: do not restrict the chest or hold around the body. Check the eyes, nostrils, mouth and beak if possible, having a good look in there for mucus, redness, masses or anything else unusual. Palpate the tummy for pain, fluid, lumps or anything else (eggs, if female or unknown). Check all the joints for swelling, pain, and mobility. The feathers should be parted to view the skin, muscles and skeleton below; this can be done using a q-tip with isopropyl alcohol or KY gel. Look for bruising, lacerations, injured feathers. I really must stress that you need a bird-experienced person, and not just a vet who advertises that they care for birds. You need to take your bird to see an avian-experienced veterinarian ASAP for complete examination, diagnosis and appropriate treatment. Check https://aav.site-ym.com/?page=basiccare click on "find a vet"http://aav.site-ym.com/search/custom.asp?id=1803 If this were my patient, and money no object, I would start with complete fecal analysis and direct smear, stained with Sedi-stain and unstained for multiple parasites, fungi, spirals; direct smear stained with Sedi-stain and unstained of the oral cavity; bacterial culture and sensitivity of the feces and choana. Depending on the case I might do a fungal culture. Routine blood work is necessary to rule out other issues. There are MANY DNA/RNA tests for bird diseases. Ultrasound is often more informative than radiographs and does not require anesthesia (ask your vet about this option). Generally I start them out on medications as indicated by the tests. AAV recommended lab workYour bird may need injectible fluids, calcium, antibiotics and many other medications. Act quickly and good luck.

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