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my baby budgerigar aged approx 20 days has been hand fed on

 
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my baby budgerigar aged approx 20 days has been hand fed on formula for 7 days and is not too bothered about the food for the last two days although I force some into it. It does not seem to put on weight although its feathers have changed slightly. What should I do to find out why hes not hungry?

 

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Type of Animal: Bird
Age: approx 20 days
Name of Bird: Chicky

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Bird hand rearing formula

Submitted: 297 days and 12 hours ago.
Category: Bird Veterinary
Value: AU$25
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Expert:  Dr. Pat replied 297 days and 3 hours ago.

Greetings, I am Dr. Pat. I have worked with birds for many years. I will do my best to help you.

1) are you actually weighing him on a grams scale? you cannot determine weight by looking.

2) have you offered adult food while he is in the process of rejecting formula?

Generally you can see food through the transparent skin over the crop area, so you can pick him up and physically look at that area. Gently part the feather and you should be able to tell right away.

If you feel comfortable with it, examine the bird thoroughly, using gentle restraint via washcloth or hand towel: do not restrict the chest or hold around the body. Check the mouth and beak if possible, having a good look in there for mucus, redness, masses or anything else unusual. Palpate the tummy for pain, fluid, lumps or anything else. Check all the joints for swelling, pain, and mobility.

Move the bird to an aquarium, box or carrier with soft towels in the bottom, no perch, and food and water in low bowls that can be reached easily. Put the whole thing on a heating pad on low or medium. Check it frequently, no overheating allowed! Keep the unit partially covered, warm and quiet. White paper towels or white cloth towels will show the true color of the droppings.


Do not try to force food or water. You can offer warm cooked rice, pancakes, cornbread, grapes, melon, greens in addition to normal food. Transport as soon as possible.

Pet/feed store medications and home remedies are harmful, ineffective, immune-suppressive, and make them much worse and may interfere with the veterinarian's diagnosis and treatment. Do not use them.

I know it is expensive, but you may not have many home options, because the first thing you need a vet for is to find out what is going on. Treatment is only as good as the diagnosis. If you call around, you may find a vet to work within your means. We certainly try to do our best in my clinic.

You need to to take your bird to see an avian-experienced veterinarian ASAP for complete examination, diagnosis and appropriate treatment.
http://www.aavac.com.au/localvet.html

http://www.birdvet.com.au/

http://www.birdclinic.net/

http://www.birdmunchies.com.au/associations/index.htm

If this were my patient, I would start with complete fecal analysis and direct smear, for multiple parasites; bacterial culture and sensitivity of the feces and choana. Depending on the case I might do a fungal culture. Routine blood work is necessary to rule out other issues. Generally I start them out on antibiotics as indicated by the tests.

Your bird may need injectable fluids, calcium, antibiotics and many other medications. Act quickly and good luck.



The following guidelines help with basic issues such as nutrition, obesity, good immune status. Surprising how the following can make a bird healthy, and how infrequently birds are ill if they are on the following regimen. No amount of medicine is going to work if the birds' basic needs are not met.

Birds should be on a high-quality, preferably prescription, pelleted diet: I prefer High-potency Harrison's
http://www.harrisonsbirdfoods.http://www.harrisonsbirdfoods.com/products/harrisons.html
http://www.hbf-uk.co.uk/
http://www.mah-shop.com/
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http://totallyorganics.com/t-pellets.php

Hagen
http://www.hagen.com/uk/birds/addinfo/tropican.cfm

or in Europe, try this distributor:
http://www.vetafarm.com.au/categories/BIRDS/FOODS/,

in Europe,
http://www.st-laurent.fr/content/pop/dry_food/birds.html

In addition, they should be offered dark leafy greens, cooked sweet potatoes, yams, squash, pumpkin; entire (tops and bottoms) fresh carrots and so forth. No seeds (and that means a mix, or millet, or sprays, etc. etc.) and only healthy, low-fat high fiber people food. A dietary change should be closely monitored and supervised by your avian vet.

Daily Maintenance

Birds should get 12-14 hours dark, quiet, uninterrupted sleep at night. Any less and they can suffer from sleep deprivation and associated illnesses. They should be covered or their cage placed in a dark room that is not used after they go to bed.

The cage material should be cleaned everyday, and twice a day if the bird is really messy. Paper towels, newspaper, bath towels are ok. Never use corn cob, sawdust, wood chips, or walnut shell.
Food and water dishes should be cleaned and changed daily. Keep one set cleaned while the other is in use.

Fresh, perishable food should be placed in separate food bowls. Remove fresh food from the cage after a couple of hours to avoid spoilage.

Change cage papers daily, and clean the grate and tray weekly.

Clean food debris or droppings from toys and perches as needed (which can be as often as once a day).

Grit is not necessary for birds, and will cause digestive problems and death. The best sources of minerals (and vitamins) are leafy greens. Never give grit, gravel sandpaper or cement perches. A bird will eat those to excess when it is not feeling well or if there is a nutritional deficiency. They do not need it at all (an old myth from the poultry days, even poultry do not need it). It can cause an impaction and lead to serious or fatal consequences.

Customer replied 296 days and 11 hours ago.

sorry my baby bird died this morning at 9.10am. I am sorry I couldnt have got my answer yesterday afternoon when I emailed the question.

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Expert:  Dr. Pat replied 296 days and 3 hours ago.

I am very sorry for your loss.

I live on the other side of the world and answered when I got the question.

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Expert:  Dr. Pat replied 296 days and 1 hours ago.

I am sorry that you rated my information so low. I cannot control the timeing of the questions, and in fact several other experts elected NOT to respond to you prior to the time I came online. I am very sorry that there are not more local people who can help you in distress. I tried my best.

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Expert:  Dr. Pat replied 293 days and 22 hours ago.

Hi Deborah,

I'm just following up on our conversation about Chicky. How is everything going?

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Customer replied 293 days and 18 hours ago.

why are you asking about Chicky when I told you he died three days ago and you responded already. Please do not email me any more. I do not wish to use the service and want my bank account details taken off your records. Thank you.

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Expert:  Dr. Pat replied 293 days and 5 hours ago.

This was automatic. I did not ask for a follow up. I will contact customer service.

I apologize. Not under my control.

 
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