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Hello, I'm Jason. I will do my best to answer your question quickly and accurately using the information you have provided.
I have a few questions
so, it sounds like we have 2 problems here
ok I will answer them
the power loss is likely keeping the readiness tests from running
did you replace the belt yourself, and if so, were ALL belt-related parts replaced, all 4 special tools used?
no I had the shop do it.. they did say they orderd a special tool
i suspect it was a timing issue
I'd bet a hundred bucks that it is
I've seen this so many times with 3.0's, more so than any other Euro car I work on
people don't do it perfectly, and this particular engine, requires absolute perfection when setting timing up
ok so knowing this what can I tell this shop on Monday. that can help them resolve the issue. I am not a yeller or screammer
well, let me ask this. Is this shop Euro/Audi-specific?
no sorry to say no.. this all started with a water pump I thought ok nuts and bolts is nuts and bolts
in a lot of cases, I agree, but these are another story altogether.
Hard to say how to handle it though. Here's how I would....
ask them what tools they used to time it up, and if they reset the cam sprockets
do have a list of names of these tools, and to see if they rest the cam sprockets..ok got that
Let me show you a picture of the cam setting tools used (there are two, one per bank). Ignore the paint marks, since this is another of a dozen times we've had to retime an AVK engine due to another shop messing them up
the previous shop used paint marks
list of tools:1) crank pin2) cam jaws1) timing sprcoket reset socket
ok the big question if I have to cut my loses what is this going to run if I go to the right type of shop
well, are all of the belt parts new? Meaning pump, all 3 belt rollers, belt tensioner damper?
and if I assume they didn't use the cam jaws, you'll need new valve cover gaskets
I they just changed the belt
ok, that's bad too. Most dealerships are around $2300. At my shop, I charge a flat $1650
I'm so sorry. Please don't shoot the messenger
ok thats sucks...so looks like I should of just left the belt on...ok lets talk these not completed stuff. what have u heard about theses
well, I know readiness well
the reason they're not completing is because of the current state of tune of the engine
if the engine was timed up right, they would likely run through....
Also a regular Audi/Euro shop can use their vag-com scan tool to run readiness in the shop, in 10 minutes, without having to drive the car a single foot
i know you seem to think that if the timing is right the codes will reset..ok I am good with that... what is a "drive cycle"
drive cycle....that's an EPA definition
I have heard that in my research but did not under stand it.
That's starting the engine cold, going through 30 some-odd steps of accelerating, letting the car idle, cruising at 60 mph, decelerating, and so on....
it's a test that cannot be done in the real world because there is such a thing called traffic
if you have your own test track, it can be done
however, most cars, during a normal course of about 30-50 miles of driving, will set all readiness monitors, IF the engine is running properly
yee gads...ok well I am satified I will print this out and see what happens. I think the shop should of said hey we can change the belt due to we dont have the tools to re time right. now I think you can change the water pume with out touching the timing bely?
No chance of replacing the pump without removing the belt. I should have a picture of this too
Ok, see the red circle here
that's a broken water pump pulley, because the pump was not replaced during a previous belt job
there should be another pulley there
so it looks like they should of just ask me to leave haha hmm ok well lets see if they can do something.. this is my wife car ..she drives the dam thing less than 10 miles a day. I just need it to smog ...and run ...Thank you sir...
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oh I think they are sincear just did not go through what was needed...
sure, I can see that