My 2002 allroad is showing code 17125, torque converter cluck stuck....is this a common problem? I have an estimate of $2450 to fix it. Is it worth fixing, at this age (51000 miles)? What other problems can I expect at this point?
Year: 2002Make: AudiMake (other): quattroModel: allroadEngine: 2.7t
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Sorry to say, but this is a costly repair. A seal inside of the torque converter has failed. It is very common on the 2.7Ts as well as the 3.0L vehicles. The transmission must be removed in order to replace the torque converter. There is NO other way to correct this code.
Your MIL (malfunction indicator light) is on because the seal affects the torque converter lock up function which when nonfunctional can reduce your gas mileage. The illuminated MIL and corresponding trouble code stored will "fail" this vehicle for a smog or state inspection where they are required.
Another pattern failure for the Allroads is the reverse clutch circuit failure. This is typically first noticed when trying to back up a steep driveway as it will not and the transmission slips. To confirm this first put your foot on the brake FIRMLY and then put the vehicle in drive and accelerate the engine. The RPMs should go up to about 1,800 RPMs and stop climbing. This is the converter stall speed. Now try the same in reverse. If it goes above !,800 (DON'T go too far!) the reverse clutch circuit has failed and the transmission will require replacement with a rebuilt unit. I mention this because the rebuilt unit comes with a new torque converter (17125 DTC). I had the 17125 DTC in my 2001 Allroad for almost a year, then my reverse clutch went out and I replaced the transmission this past winter.
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Are you saying that we should test the reverse clutch circuit, and only when it fails then we should replace the transmission? How much does a new tranny cost for the 2.7t? Or would it be cost-effective to replace the TC now?
What I am trying to say is yes, the torque converter has failed and requires replacement. But, Would you not be very disappointed if the reverse clutch failed after paying for the torque converter replacement? The labor is the same to replace the torque converter or the transmission, and a rebuilt comes with a new torque converter. So in essence you would be paying for the repair twice.
I suggest you just test the reverse circuit as described before replacing the torque converter only. If it passes the test (stops at 1,800 RPM) the reverse circuit should be fine. With only 51k miles it is likely ok. Most that fail have over 100k miles. Mine failed at 130k miles. I did not mean to alarm you I just wanted you to be as informed as possible. It is about a $7,000 dollar repair to replace the transmission with a factory rebuilt unit.
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