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What is the value of a Howard Miller 150-H Westminster Chime

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What is the value of a Howard Miller 150-H Westminster Chime grandfather clock, model 610-181 bought in 1978 and still in very good condition?
Submitted: 2 years ago.
Category: Appraisals
Expert:  CAssoc replied 2 years ago.

CAssoc :

Are you wanting a market (resale) value opinion or a retail (insurance purposes) value opinion.

Customer :

Resale value. May sell... or keep... depending on value. Not insuring unless I need to!.

CAssoc :

ok, will do some research and get back soon.

CAssoc :

Your clock was made prior to Howard Miller giving styles a special name. There are a number of different Model 610s. Could you tell me if yours has a moon face and a top split pediment (not a defect, the top comes up in flanking curves with a turned finial in between)

CAssoc :

Or is it a continuous bonnet top?

CAssoc :

Also is it Oak or Walnut?

Customer :

Definitely the flanking curves on top split by a turned spike in the middle (finial?)

Customer :

I didn't recognize the moon, but the literature refers to setting the moon dial. It has a semicircle on top of the square clock face which has a "moonlike" circular image which might be the dial. That object has a banner across it with latin or other language words across it.

Again, it is a 610-181 model and the card inside refers to No. 150-H Westminster Chime

Thanks for your help

Customer :

Oh... I don't know if it's oak or walnut. Unless you can tell me how to tell the difference, I wouldn't know this.

CAssoc :

Hi, are you there?

CAssoc :

Thanks for the info. If you are there, oak will have very dark strong grain and unless stained dark, a lighter color. Walnut is a warm brown with fine grain.

CAssoc :

It looks like the 610 models were made in cherry and oak. Cherry will be reddish brown and fine grained.

CAssoc :

Ok finally found that model. It is also called the "Grant" and came with a Windsor Cherry finish or other hardwoods. Plays Westminster or Ave Maria. Current Resale runs between $300-$570.

CAssoc :

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Customer :

I'm concerned and confused with your estimate. I've seen model 610 grandfather clocks online well over a thousand dollars. Why is this estimate so low?

CAssoc :

It is due to the particular model, current retail on it is around $1000, but the resale market is really low for it. I know what you are saying as several of the models in the 610 line run into the $10,000-$15,000 range retail. I wish I had better news for you, but I did find the exact model. My best, Randi

CAssoc :

Does your clock look like this one that is still being made? It is model 610-182?

CAssoc :

Rather 611-182?

CAssoc :

The problem is there is very little reference out there for your model. I found one sale as noted above and one other reference with a question about your model clock being purchased from a thrift store and how to put it togerther. The clock expert was also not familiar with your model as it apparently was made for a short time.

Customer :

Yes, but probably not quite as ornate. Only the center finial on top, not the two on the sides. And the pendulum is smaller and simpler.

So this seems to be a "simpler" model, produced for only a short time, so there isn't a lot of history on resale, I'm hearing from you. Not much to compare to. And the $300 - $600 estimate is based on a $1,000 current retail. My last question then... is moving it problematic (because it's fragile) and do you need to have it serviced when you do move it?

CAssoc :

Take the pendulum and weights off to move it and do not lay the clock down (horizontally). Move it in an upright position. It is best to have a clock person or someone knowledgeable put the clock back together if you are not comfortable doing it. A service call can save a lot of headaches for you. You have a lovely clock. I have been thinking about it and due to the lack of sales info, and the detail on your clock, I would revise my insurance replacement opinion to $1500.

CAssoc :

My best to you, Randi

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