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OK Kenmore trash compactor model# XXXXX kept tripping breaker. Thought it was breaker but it was ok. Next it quite working all together. Thought it was directional limit switch - changed it - no luck, tried on off switch - changed it - still no power - found where cord had been crimped between a screw on lower back panel and wall - small black burn area on wall and back of compactor, small hole in wire to bare wires - Was SURE this was the problem - fixed the cord and STILL NO POWER!!! NOW WHAT??? Thanks!
STOP THE PRESSES!!! Just realized the outlet may be bad so plugged it in another outlet - NOW it starts making a TERRIBLE bagging noise as soon as you plug it in Unplugged it immediately - what is going on??
Let me reinterate as ther eis a lot of information for you to read in my post.
1. a month or so ago compactor kept tripping breaker. checked breaker - no problem - check outlet no problem.
2. quit working all together - no power - Kelly on Just answer suggested changing the directional switch - did but no power.
3. Kelly said try the on/off switch - changed - still no power.
3. Older son discovered very tiny burn mark on wall by outlet/plug and on a screw/bolt on lower left off compactor back AND a hole burned completely through the power cord - bare wire showing! I KNOW-we should have checked this first but I digress....
4. We were sure this was the problem so we cut past bad spot and securely rewired cord - hubby is pretty handy with stuff like that - I call his work over kill - he calls it being safe
5. Plugged compactor in - original plug - no luck - so tried another plug and as soon as you plug it is it makes a terrible banging, rattling sound - it "feels" like it is at the top in the back but who knows!(hopefully YOU do!)
SO.....there you have it - afraid to leave it on to long - could it be the chain? is it the motor?
WOULD recording the sound and putting it on youtube for you to hear help?THANKS!!
HELLO???? Is anyone working on my question?? Its been 3 hours and nothing!
So what do I do first - Is it ok to let it run while making that bad noise to see if ram resets?
Where is the metal trip lever? Thanks
yes when we replaced it it had a lever on it and i see the lever I took pictures if they help I can post them
I checked the wires - they are clearly labeled v- violet; y-yellow and o-orange they are all on correctly I see the lever. I don't know what the ram is doing because when you plug it in you don't have to start it it just immediately makes a terrible noise. Should I let it run for 30 seconds or so or will this damage it further?
Would hearing the noise help?
OK - I took the top o f the unit off and the whole ram cam out very easily -
Now what ? How did it come unscrewed and how do I get it back on or screwed back on - I am sorry for all the questions but I LOVE to fix stuff but just not sure how to go about it - the dishwasher, 3 freezers, computers and vacuum cleaner were much easier!
ok motor running backwards - did I cross wires when did the plug(hubby actually did that) or is the directional switch wired wrong or is the on off switch wired wrong? or the screws are turning backwards
Yes - if you pull in on the lever it clicks - what about the screws turning backwards? Hubby admits he broke his cardinal rule and did not mark the wires when he cut the cord he is taking it apart and we taped it up GOOD! We can see the screws turning and they are backing OUT of the ram instead of in when it is turned on.
Here is another problem - when you plug it in it starts immediately - you do not even have to turn the start switch - Sorry to be so dnese but I think there is something else going on here -
1. When you plug in the screws start turning - backing out of the ram
2. When you hold the switch in the ram does not move but the screws still keep BACKING OUT of the ram
3. when you flip the lever back the screws still BACK OUT of the ram -
The screws are not turning the right direction
4. all of the wires are in the correct order on the switch - the lever is up and is does not change the direction when you click it on or out.
WHY is it starting immediately upon plugging it in WITHOUT turning the start button?
BTW - have checked the wiring on the on off switch 6 ways form Sunday and it is clearly marked and plugged up correctly. It SHOULD NOT be running when plugged in if the start switch IS NOT turned on should it???
Like I said we checked it 6 ways from Sunday and all of the wires are clearly marked and clearly connected to the correct terminals.
1. WHY are the screws turning the wrong direction?
2. WHY does it start when you plug it in but the start switch is NOT turned on?
I turned the start switch to the remove switch position and it stops.
NO - you can open the drawer with foot pedal but not start it.
Did you see my question about WHY the screws are turning the wrong way?????????????????????????????
Taking the yellow wire OFF and taping it does just what I said it did when you had me remove it - IT starts IMMEDIATELY upon plugging in - IT SHOULD NOT. You should have to TURN the switch to start.
TO RECAP:With the YELLOW wire REMOVED from the terminal marked Y the unit starts running IMMEDIATELY upon being plugged in -
This unit is designed to run ONLY when you turn the start switch to the right one time then it springs back to the upright position - the ram should start to go down - compact- come back and complete the cycle.
I AM NOT sure if you are READING my ENTIRE question - you still have not explained WHY THE SCREWS are turning the wrong way???
I realize I have several problems -
Something is making the start switch malfunction - IT COULD be a bad switch - I AM POSITIVE it is plugged in or the wires are correct!!!!!
UNLESS the switch is MARKED incorrectly - HOWEVER - I took the wires off and put them on the opposite terminals with NO SUCCESS.
I apologize but I am getting really frustrated here -
I know how difficult it is on your end - you can only go by what I am telling you and I KNOW how confusing I can be
SO-------I am telling you - the switches are hooked up correctly
The ram is NOT going down because the screws are turning the wrong way - backing out of the unit
I realize this sounds like a bad directional switch and or a bad on off switch and they were both just changed. I guess one or both could be bad.
PLEASE - - is there anything else that would cause the motor or the screws to turn the wrong way?????
WOULD the xcord shorting out have caused anything like this?
Could the screw receivers or whatever they are that the long screws go into be stripped - would that make them not go in? If so how do you tell and can they be replaced?
The switch is not the problem - checked continuity and all just as you said.
Top limit switch seems ok.
HELLO???? I had a follow up question and it has not been answered - should I post it to another appliance tech??
It si posted as a follow up to my trash compactor questions just above this post - it actually posted twice - sorry - Once on the 4th of Feb and again on the 6th. Here it is again:
Could the screw receivers or whatever they are that the long screws go into be stripped - would that make them not go in? If so how do you tell and can they be replaced?The switch is not the problem - checked continuity and all just as you said.Top limit switch seems ok.
Yes it has been a long post and I apologize - I will check what you suggested with a meter. I GUESS the new switch could be bad or something - Thanks - will let you know.
Yes it has been a long post and I apologize - I will check what you suggested with a meter. I GUESS the new switch could be bad or something - Thanks - will let you know. THANKS ... Paula
OK - Start switch has continuity from violet to yellow and nothing else until I hit start so it tests OK
Top limit switch has NO CONTINUITY on ANY wire combo!
Could the NEW switch be bad?
Could you please tell me or send me a picture of HOW the switch should be placed when in the compactor - Right now the long thin metal blade or switch is facing or against the front of the ram - When you pull it forward it clicks - HOWEVER - when you pull it forward when the compactor is running it DOES NOT change the direction of the screws.
BOY am I confused!!!
UNLESS the switch is MARKED wrong - it clearly tells you what color wires go where - OR for orange,GR/T for gray/tan etc.
Okay, the momentary start switch should NOT have continuity from violet to yellow until you press start. You said you pulled off the yellow wire and it still started when you plugged it in? Is that correct?
The top limit switch should have continuity ONLY from red to yellow with the ram at the top. If there was no continuity on any combination the motor could not run.
Start switch DOES NOT have continuity - when you turn the start button it does.
NOW - it will not start at all!! All of the wires in the switches are plugged in tightly the breaker is turned on the outlet is working- checked it with another appliance!
ARRGH!!! I am ready to toss the compactor in the TRASH!!!
Mine is not a push button start switch if that matters. Mine is a switch you turn to the right to turn it on - it has 3 positions =
left is to remove the switch to prevent kids from starting it - straight up is off and turn it to the right(it bounces back to straight up) turns it on.
NOW - I just re-checked continuity on the top limit switch and it has continuity pegged all the way to the right of the ohm meter on yellow to ALL other colors - red, orange, gray and violet!! IS THIS POSSIBLE - I readily admit I have not a clue what is going on or what to do!
OK ALL wires unhooked - checked continuity:
Y to R- NO
Y to V- NO
Y to O- NO
Y to Gr-YES
Or to all but Violet - no
Or to V-YES
OK - I give up! I re-positioned the switch so the thin metal lever that the ram pushes in it firmly against a metal piece that sticks out from the ram to trip the switch -
I double checked the wires and all plugged in ok
Continuity from yellow to red and nothing else on top limit switch
BUT NO POWER!! IT WILL NOT START!!
OK - When the power cord was repaired the compactor would come on as soon as you plugged it in - WITHOUT turning the switch to ON or START - it came on and ran continuously in the OFF position.
I have done NOTHING other than reposition the top limit switch - EVERYTHING is still plugged in where it was before!
IF the unit was working AFTER the poser cord repair and NOTHING has changed could there be something ELSE causing the problem??
I am STILL not understanding how the top limit swtich has anything to do with the problem - I know it was not "touching the ram but we could manually flip the switch and it did NOT change the direction of the screws!
IF we were able to manually pull or click the metal lever on the top limit when the screws were turning why didn't it stop or turn the other way?
YOU ARE A GENIUS!!!!!!! I adjusted the top limit switch - again and plugged it in and tada!! IT WORKS!! The ram went down and back up and turned the switch off just like it should!
I think the cord was probably the problem the entire time - I don't think either switch was bad but when I replaced the top limit switch I just did not know it had to be adjusted just so -
I THANK YOU so very much for being SOOOO patient!
I will definitely give you the top rating and a bonus!!